Thursday, November 21, 2019

Last Night's Democratic Party Debate

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Pretty decent debate last night. Elizabeth started off strong but in the end Bernie won. Biden was as pathetic as usual and I get more certain by the day that I would never vote for him-- and I was completely certain of that in 1980. Kamala was desperate, dishonest and hideous and ought to drop out this afternoon. I'm no Tulsi fan but she sure wiped the floor with both Kamala and Mayo Pete when they attacked her, showing how weak and insipid they both are. It's worth noting that the moderators were pretty good and mostly didn't try ginning up bullshit fights. (But I couldn't run to the other room fast enough to shut the TV off before the worst post-debate panel in the history of the known universe started babbling on MSNBC.) And, one more thing-- hopefully Deval Patrick will end his campaign now that he's seen what America outside of Bain Capital thinks of him and his utterly incomprehensible and absurd run for the presidency. His campaign rally at Morehouse College in Atlanta last night drew exactly 2 people (two) who weren't on his payroll-- even fewer than Biden usually draws to his rallies.





And in the Twitterverse? Honan Strategy Group and WPA Intelligence crunched data all evening to understand preliminary reactions to last night’s Democratic debate. Here's what they have concluded:
There were 1.4 million less tweets this evening than compared with the October debate-- suggesting the debates are missing an opportunity to engage Democratic voters.
Overall, Joe Biden Won the Debate on Twitter with the largest number of Twitter Mentions (151K).
But at the same time Biden was the Loser, as sentiment about him was uniformly negative to positive-- 43% to 9%-- the most negative of any candidate on stage.
Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris, and Pete Buttigieg were the only candidates who had a greater Share of Voice when compared to the prior debate.
All seven of the other candidates had fewer Twitter Mentions during this debate compared to the October debate.
Bernie Sanders had his best debate yet, growing from 48K Twitter Mentions to 71.3K.  Pete Buttigieg doubled his Twitter Mentions while Kamala Harris rebounded with strong viral moments.
Similar to the October debate, Tulsi Gabbard was the Most Searched Candidate on Google in 48 states, with Pete Buttigieg the most searched for in 2 states-- Iowa, where he leads in early polling, and Nebraska.
In terms of who went Most Viral, Kamala Harris had 3 of the top 5 most retweeted tweets. Bernie Sanders had 2 of the top 5.
Tom Steyer Lost the Debate on Twitter with the lowest number of Twitter Mentions (14.7K) and shrinking his Mentions almost by half from the October debate (26.6K to 14.7K).
Mirroring her drop in polling in early states and nationally, Elizabeth Warren is cratering on Twitter.  Her Mentions were down by more than two-thirds from the October debate (99.4K to 30.5K).  Andrew Yang is beginning to fade as well, down from 81K in September, to 52.3K in October, and 31.2K in tonight’s November debate-- although he had the most positive mentions.
Last week Norman Solomon went to Status Quo Joe’s first campaign rally in California and wrote he found it revealing. It was in Los Angeles and, relative to how many people show up for other candidates, it was pretty empty. Solomon wrote that "No more than 500 people showed up." Solomon wrote that what struck him about the rally "went beyond the dismal turnout and the stale rhetoric from a corporate Democrat posing as a champion of working people. Biden’s slow decline in polls is empirical, but what ails his campaign-- as reflected in that California kickoff rally-- is almost ineffable. Biden is a back-to-the-future product who often seems clueless about the present. In view of so many deep and widespread concerns, from income inequality to healthcare disparities to the climate emergency, his talking points are simply beside the point."

A couple of days ago Biden announced he would oppose legalizing marijuana. Yesterday, the House Judiciary Committee voted 24-10 to go ahead and do exactly that. Biden was out of step with every single Democrat on the committee and, on fact, he was in step with 10 Republicans, even though two very conservative Republicans, Matt Gaetz (FL) and Tom McClintock (CA) voted for legalization. Biden lives in the 80's. He would be a catastrophic nominee.

Now, back to Solomon: "The Biden base has two main components: the corporate media outlets that routinely protect him from critical scrutiny, and the rich people who routinely infuse his lackluster campaign with cash. When and where he isn’t getting fuel from either component of that base, the campaign sputters."
Contrasts with the large and passionate rallies for Sanders and Elizabeth Warren could hardly be greater. Not coincidentally, those two candidates are glad to rely on large numbers of small donations, while Biden relies on small numbers of large donations.

Biden is so afraid of Democratic activists that-- for the second time this year-- he declined an invitation to join other candidates in speaking to a convention of the California Democratic Party. The latest convention heard from eight presidential candidates on Nov. 16, two days after Biden’s kickoff rally, no more than an hour’s drive away in Long Beach.


While careful to stay away from engaged grassroots Democrats, Biden made a beeline for wealthy donors immediately after his sparsely attended rally. First, he hurried over to a reception in West Los Angeles (tickets up to $1,000 each). Later that evening, a local TV station noted, Biden’s fundraising schedule took him to “the Pacific Palisades home of Rick Lynch, the owner of the entertainment marketing firm BLT Communications, and music video producer Lanette Phillips,” with tickets “priced at $500 and $2,800, the maximum individual contribution during the primary campaign.”

The Los Angeles Times reported that Biden “previously made eight fundraising trips to California since entering the race in late April, visiting at least once a month. He has headlined 21 fundraisers in the state, raising money at the homes of Hollywood executives, Silicon Valley tech leaders and other affluent Democrats.”

Among some who roll their eyes about Biden, a kind of conventional wisdom now says that he is sure to fade from contention. But-- in the absence of comparable polling numbers from the numerous other corporate candidates in the race-- the Biden campaign is likely to be the best bet for deep-pocketed political investors seeking to prevent the nomination of Sanders or Warren.

Biden’s decision last month to greenlight super PACs on his behalf has underscored just how eager he is to bankroll his AstroTurf campaign against grassroots progressives no matter what. As he said during an interview in January 2018, “you shouldn’t accept any money from a super PAC, because people can’t possibly trust you.” But ultimately, Biden doesn’t need people’s trust. He needs their acquiescence.

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9 Comments:

At 6:04 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Status Quo Joe has made 8 trips to California, but skipped both meetings put on by the CA Democratic Party because he doesn't want to get booed off the stage.

 
At 6:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We haven't benefitted from any kind of 'debate' in either party probably since the '60s.

What we see instead is a competition of talking points, crafted to appeal to morons' emotions.

Thus, it is pretty pointless to watch/listen to these teevee performances. You won't learn anything. No policy position can possibly be explained in a couple of minutes.

In fact, relying on these debates keeps us dumber than shit and prone to only react emotionally to a candidate's appearance and charm rather than their command of issues and plans to improve ... whatever they want to improve.

There is intent here, of course. Give Bernie a half-hour to explain MFA and people might understand that it will end up costing the 99.99% much less while they get more.
Let biden try to trash that and you'll quickly realize that he's a corrupt neoliberal fascist who will keep things decaying for the benefit of corporations.

The DNC and the money simply cannot have that, don't you see.

 
At 7:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

@6:08 AM

And so the man who is superior to everyone else on the planet came forward once again to explain how everything works and how everything should be. Stated in the same smug tone that suffuses everything else he writes. Gosh, how does he manage to get up and participate every day, considering how stupid we all are? The answer is: HE DOESN'T. His idea of "participation" is haunting this blog, day and night, and posting minute variations on this same post over and over. Over and over and over. OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER...

God. What a joyless chore your life must be. I'm only glad that you (obviously) live it completely alone.

 
At 12:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once the parties(?) took away the debates from "The League of Women Voters", debates became a method to corral voters 1st into the primary and then electoral college slaughter houses of their choosing. A crack of the whip and a shout of "Lesser of two Evils! is all it takes.

Which is by design i.e.
"corrals employ long sweeping curves so that each animal is prevented from seeing what lies ahead and just concentrates on the hind quarters of the animal in front of it. This design – along with the design elements of solid sides, solid crowd gate, and reduced noise at the end point – work together to encourage animals forward in the chute and to not reverse direction."

 
At 12:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:52, what a relief it must be to have a mind as simple as yours. and trump's.

We all have stopped awaiting you and your ilk offering up any kind of refutation of anything I've offered. We know your simplistic "thought" process could not possibly come up with anything more complex than "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", "republicans are bad" or... "me horny".

You hate. That's the simplest "thought" process there is. Naturally, you think you've turned that into an art form. Well, you and trump.

Hate won't ever make your life better. All you can do is convince yourself that everyone else is worse.

 
At 3:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How did you get your numbers? Tulsi had over 110,000 twitter mentions right after the debate.

 
At 4:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tulsi "wiped the floor" with Harris and Pete? You're batshit insane, Howie. Tulsi covered herself in shit. The thought that she is any kind of "peace candidate" is pretty bizarre, when her entire going-nowhere vanity campaign seems to consist of throwing verbal bombs and poison gas at everybody in sight.

She's a pure opportunist. She is every bit the Fox News Democrat as Kyrsten Sinema, who you rightly bash. Like Sinema, I expect Tulsi to flip to the Republicans any time now, having destroyed any amity or common ground she might have had with any Democrats.

 
At 5:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

@4:26 Tulsi's common ground isn't with your neo-liberal `republican-lite party, as that is the party that supported all these regime change wars that Tulsi has the guts to speak out against. They gave us the Clintons, Obama, and via that mendacity, Trump. If you think that's opportunist or wrong and support the trillions of dollars spent in Iraq alone, where she served, then I think you will or perhaps should flip Republican as you're m.o.is all vacuous slander & no facts. Tulsi is the only candidate to call for pardoning of both Snowden and Assange because she knows it's the proper thing to do. She's actually a Bernie fan which makes her less republican than you. That's not vanity, and it takes a lot of guts and belief in principle to oppose a fascist warmongering empire that thinks nothing of destroying human life for their own vanity weapons profits.

 
At 8:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

@12:57

Smug. Vapid. Repeat endlessly.

I don't hate you. I think you're pathetic.

 

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