Tuesday, November 19, 2019

If Trump Were Innocent, Wouldn't He Testify? Don't Hold Your Breath + When Will Jeff Van Drew Leave The Democratic Party And Formally Join The GOP?

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Rhapsody in Blonde by Nancy Ohanian

The new ABC News poll by Ipsos (Nov 17) indicates that 51% of Americans believe Trump’s actions in Ukraine were wrong and he should be impeached by the House and removed from office by the Senate, while 19% say his actions were wrong but he should not be removed from office and 25%-- the dead-enders-- say he did nothing wrong. A new Harvard Institute of Politics poll finds 52% of young Americans-- and 58% of likely general election voters under 30-- want Trump impeached and removed from office. Only 28% of likely voters of that age feel differently. This will get a lot worse for Trump in the coming weeks.

Yesterday, Desmond Butler, reporting for the Associated Press, shattered Trump's plaintive cry that his "perfect call" bullshit is backed up by the Ukrainians. Butler wrote that "Despite his denials, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy was feeling pressure from the Trump Administration to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden before his July phone call with President Donald Trump that has led to impeachment hearings."
In early May, staff at the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv, including then-Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, were briefed on a meeting Zelenskiy held in which he sought advice on how to navigate the difficult position he was in, according to two people with knowledge of the briefings.

He was concerned that Trump and associates were pressing him to take action that could affect the 2020 U.S. presidential race, the people said. They spoke only on condition of anonymity because of the diplomatic and political sensitivity of the issue.

The briefings show that U.S. officials knew early that Zelenskiy was feeling pressure to investigate Biden, even though the Ukrainian leader later denied it in a joint news conference with Trump in September.

Congressional Republicans have pointed to that public Zelenskiy statement to argue that he felt no pressure to open an investigation, and therefore the Democrats’ allegations that led to the impeachment hearings are misplaced.

“Both presidents expressly have stated there was no pressure, no demand, no conditions, no blackmail, no corruption,” one Republican lawmaker, John Ratcliffe of Texas, argued on the first day of public hearings last week.

The central allegation in the impeachment inquiry is that Trump, through his allies, demanded that Ukraine, which is fending off Russian aggression, launch an investigation that would benefit him politically in exchange for crucial military and strategic support.

Witnesses have detailed, in closed-door depositions and public impeachment hearings, that allies of Trump pressed Ukraine to investigate Biden and his son while withholding military aid and a coveted meeting between the newly elected Zelenskiy and Trump.

The U.S. briefings-- and contemporaneous notes on Zelenskiy’s early anxiety about Trump’s interest in an investigation-- suggest that Democrats have evidence in reach to contradict Republican arguments that Zelenskiy never felt pressure to investigate Biden.

The Associated Press reported last month about Zelenskiy’s meeting on May 7 with, two top aides, as well as Andriy Kobolyev, head of the state-owned natural gas company Naftogaz, and Amos Hochstein, an American who sits on the Ukrainian company’s supervisory board. Ahead of the meeting, Hochstein told Yovanovitch, the U.S. ambassador, why he was being called in.

He separately briefed two U.S. embassy officials, Suriya Jayanti and Joseph Pennington, about Zelenskiy’s concerns, said the two people who spoke to the AP. Jayanti and Pennington took notes on the meeting, the people said.

After the meeting, Hochstein told the embassy officials about Zelenskiy’s concerns and then traveled to Washington to update Yovanovitch on the meeting. The ambassador, who was fending off a smear campaign, had just been called back to Washington, where she was informed that she no longer had the confidence of the president. She was relieved of her duties as ambassador on May 20.

Jayanti was also one of three witnesses to a phone call in which Trump discussed his interest in an investigation of Biden with his ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland. The call occurred while Sondland was having lunch with three embassy officials in Kyiv. David Holmes, political counsel at the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv, has already detailed to House investigators what he overheard. Jayanti and the third witness, Tara Maher, have not been interviewed.

Hochstein, a former diplomat who advised Biden on Ukraine matters during the Obama administration, has also not been questioned in the impeachment proceedings.

The Republican arguments about Zelenskiy’s lack of concern stem from a Sept. 25 joint media appearance by the American and Ukrainian leaders in which Zelenskiy discussed the July call with Trump that effectively launched the impeachment inquiry.

The appearance came shortly after Trump released a rough transcript of the call.

“You heard that we had, I think, good phone call. It was normal. We spoke about many things. And I-- so I think, and you read it, that nobody pushed-- pushed me,” Zelenskiy said in the appearance with Trump on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly meeting in New York.

“In other words, no pressure,” Trump spoke up to add.

In the impeachment hearings, Democrats have countered that Zelenskiy’s public comments came when he was trying to calm the waters with the U.S. president in the immediate wake of the transcript’s release. The burgeoning scandal has brought further uncertainty for Ukraine with its most important Western partner as the country faces simmering conflict with Russia. Zelenskiy’s May 7 meeting suggests that he had been concerned about U.S. support from the start.
Pelosi wants to get to the bottom of the discrepancy. So she invited Trump to testify-- either in person or in writing. Pelosi on Face The Nation: "If he has information that is exculpatory, that means ex, taking away, culpable, blame, then we look forward to seeing it. Trump could come right before the committee and talk, speak all the truth that he wants if he wants."

The chances of Trump testifying are zero but Monday morning he said he would "strongly consider" doing so, reminding reporters that "she also said I could do it in writing." And he sent out a delusional tweet on the matter as well:



Abbey Marshall (Politico): "If Trump were to submit a written statement rather than appearing in person, he would avoid live questioning that could put him in danger of accidentally perjuring himself, but his answers would still be considered under oath. Trump previously submitted written answers to questions from special counsel Robert Mueller as part of the Russia investigation. In his report, Mueller said Trump's answers were 'inadequate' and 'incomplete or imprecise.'" Actually, Trump lied in his responses to Mueller and should be charged with perjury.



Meanwhile, one of the DCCC's top recruits for 2018-- they had been trying to get him to go from being the worst Democrat in the New Jersey state legislature to the worst Democrat in Congress for years-- is very likely about to switch parties. Fox is his home away from home. Here he is on Fox with Maria Bartiromo reciting White House talking points word-for-word and performing a Tokyo Rose scene. "What I’m hearing out in the street is-- with most people is they’re kind of tired; they’re kind of worn out; they’re kind of bored, most folks, and they really want to move unless there’s something new and amazing... If there’s something new, something we haven’t heard, something that really rises to the level of treason or, you know, a high crime, that would be different, but we don’t see that. We see little, different variations, hearsay, discussions. Somebody heard something that somebody else said." That was Van Drew, not Lee Zeldin. This is that garbage the DCCC went out and dragged into Congress, knowing full well exactly what he is and has always been. Please listen to himont Fox and then please contribute to the progressive candidates running to replace these garbage Blue Dogs here on the Primary A Blue Dog page.





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3 Comments:

At 9:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

trump has already testified and lied to Mueller.

he should be subpoenaed to defend his lies to Mueller and to give him the opportunity to lie some more, pitch a fit, demonstrate his insanity or dementia.
If he refuses, he should be under a civil contempt warrant that might be served after he loses the election (and if he refuses to leave, it gives America a reason to arrest and jail him).

But fortunately for trump, the democraps are pussies and would never actually, you know, enforce their own subpoenas, US law and the constitution.

As for JVD... who the fuck cares. he's just a seat warmer to give Pelosi the tyrant's gavel anyway.

 
At 10:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just who is going to issue a civil contempt warrant with Trump's name on it? I agree this should happen, but I see no one who cares enough about the rule of law to serve it on him.

 
At 9:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I said 'should'. I agree, as I indicated just below 'should', that the democraps haven't the principles nor the balls to do any such thing.

 

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