Sunday, April 08, 2018

The President Of South Korea Was Impeached, Tried And Sentenced To 2 Dozen Years In Prison? What About Trump?


Will Trump be dragged away in handcuffs too one day?

My neighbor Cynthia is very worried that Trump may get impeached by the House, even found guilty by the Senate and that it all ends there. Tomorrow morning I'll tell her about what happened in South Korea-- something to hope for. Park Geun-hye is the daughter of a fascist dictator, Park Chung-hee, who was installed as Korea's president by the military in 1963 and served until he was assassnated in 1979. Before she was elected president, she was head of the right-wing Grand National Party. She was sworn in as president on February 25, 2013 and her party lost its majority in the National Assembly in 2016, the president dragging them down with his sinking approval ratings (30% in 2015 and 4% before she was impeached in December 2016-- an impeachment upheld by the Supreme Court (8-0) in March of last year.

She was arrested for abuse of power, bribery, coercion, and leaking government secrets and thrown into prison in March, 2017. This past Friday she was sentenced to 24 years in prison-- and fined $16,798,683. Her case is viewed as the culmination off public anger over decades of corrupt ties between top government officials and Big Business. Two former presidents also went to prison for the same kind of graft and influence-pedaling as Park Geun-hye so no one really thinks her example is going to stop the corruption in Korean politics. “You cannot end collusive ties between politics and business in South Korea by sentencing a couple former presidents to long prison terms,” said Jun Sung-in, an economist at Hongik University in Seoul, the capital. “Chaebol chiefs have never been properly punished for their corruption.”
In the months before Ms. Park was impeached, millions of South Koreans demonstrated in Seoul calling for her ouster, in the biggest popular uprising since protests in 1987 officially ended military dictatorship. Three decades later, government-business collusion had become the nemesis big enough to bring the populace into the streets.

“Chaebol are accomplices!” protesters chanted.

Many South Koreans still speak proudly of Samsung, Hyundai and other chaebol, whose export-driven growth helped lift the country out of the poverty that followed the Korean War. But over the years, frustration has grown with the chaebol, which are widely accused of stifling smaller businesses as well as doing corrupt deals with government officials.

Ms. Park was convicted on Friday of collecting or demanding $22 million from three chaebol businesses, including Samsung. She was also found guilty of pressuring 18 chaebol companies into donating $72 million to two foundations controlled by Choi Soon-sil, a longtime friend and confidant of the president.

Ahn Jin-geol, a leader of People’s Solidarity for Participatory Democracy, an anticorruption watchdog, said Ms. Park’s downfall spoke well for South Korea’s still-young democracy.

“We were ashamed that this kind of corruption still happened,” Mr. Ahn said. “But we South Koreans peacefully unseated a sitting president for corruption and had her convicted in a court of law. How many countries in the world can do that?”

But if Ms. Park’s dramatic ouster reflected a vibrant democracy at work, the scandal also unveiled a deeply flawed political system.

For decades, the government has nurtured the chaebol with favors like tax benefits and a buy-Korea policy. In return, past presidents often treated them like personal ATMs, critics say. If they did not oblige, they say, the businesses feared that the government would retaliate through the tax authorities, government regulators and prosecutors.

The donations to Ms. Choi’s foundations, nominally set up to promote sports and culture, seemed yet another example of this phenomenon. The Seoul district court that convicted Ms. Park ruled that she had coerced chaebol into donating to the foundations. The sums were determined according to the companies’ size, according to the ruling, with Samsung contributing the most: $19 million.

Ms. Park also solicited $6.5 million in bribes from the hotel chain and shopping mall giant Lotte, the court found. In return, Lotte’s chairman, Shin Dong-bin, wanted government help in regaining a license to run lucrative duty-free shops, the court said. In February, Mr. Shin was sentenced to two and a half years in prison on bribery charges.
So what about Trump? Impeachment is likely-- especially if Democrats win big and get rid of Pelosi. The idea of the Senate finding him guilt-- unless Mueller finds bags of rubles under his bed-- is unlikely. Prison? It will have to be a lot of bags of rubles... or worse. My gut tells me it could happen.

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At 9:18 PM, Blogger Larry Piltz said...

I hope your gut is right!

I know Pelosi can be risk-averse, but I wonder why you think she'd stand in the way of impeachment, DWT. It seems she steered the House pretty well during the last two years of Bush's second term. And would Steny Hoyer, her possible replacement, be any better? He's more conservative than she is, I believe. Do you think there's a progressive Democratic congressperson who could be elected Speaker instead of one of those two?

At 12:25 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will never happen in America except if the president was a leftist.

At 6:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Larry, your memory is accurate. Pelosi steered her caucus VERY well in the last 2 of the cheney admin... as long as you recognize that she steered it for her donors and as a gamble on winning everything in 2008.
Pelosi's democrap caucus didn't do one thing to head off or ameliorate the 2008 crash. If you assume anyone in that donations bacchanal was aware of any nefariousness in finance, you have to assume they did nothing so that the crash could help them in the 2008 election. Had Lehman waited 3 months to implode, their gamble would not have worked and we'd have had 8 years of McPalin. And, I might argue that those 8 could have actually been better than the 8 years of obamanation's service to corporate donors.
Pelosi also did nothing else to rein in cheney/bush, passing at least one Patriot renewal, ignoring the loss of the 4th amendment, torture, wars, g'itmo and everything else.
Since her goal was 2008, she was wildly successful. But everyone not in the democrap caucus got ratfucked.

"So what about Trump? Impeachment is likely-- especially if Democrats win big and get rid of Pelosi. The idea of the Senate finding him guilt(y)... is unlikely. Prison? It will have to be a lot of bags of rubles... or worse. My gut tells me it could happen."

Interesting you indicate correctly that the senate finding him guilty is unlikely but then speculate on prison. Delusions are like that, I suppose. They can be logically repudiated in one sentence but be resurrected in the next.

Do you not remember Pelosi forswearing impeachment only maybe 3 months ago? So it's not 'unlikely'. It's "off the table". Or do you also not remember her identical gambit in 2005? Of course you do not.

The senate will either be R majority or a small D majority (which means still a measurable R majority because a dozen or more of that caucus are really, really fascists) so a guilty verdict WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

We've been here before. Remember Nixon. What CAN happen is the Rs will pressure trump to resign in exchange for an immediate pre-emptive pardon from pence. If trump refuses to resign, they'll invoke the 25th. Pence will still pardon him.

Either way, the 62 million Nazi voters will be told on fox and breitbart and by alex jones that the democraps caused it all so 2020 will be a very interesting election.

You know what? They won't be wrong. The democraps will have caused all of it.

At 7:54 AM, Blogger Thomas Ten Bears said...

I don't want to see them imprisoned. I want them homeless and on the street, where I can spit on them. Where I my very well piss on them. Impeach the bastard and it will be sent to a country club, never to see the hard time it deserves.

Yes, "it". It isn't human. It is less than human.

At 9:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what if one group of corrupt Koreans jailed a few corrupt rivals? The system continues unrestricted. It is thus in the US of A, made (to) GRATE again by Trump and his (un)kind.

I'm reminded of Leona Helmsley, who was likely jailed only for revealing the truth behind "Only the little people pay taxes". I'm reminded of Martha Stewart, whose crime was likely that she supported "democrats" and not Republicans with her wealth like most other American billionaires do. Hillary would be there herself if the Republicans could ever weaken those who protect her from a similar fate (whether or not she ever really committed any crimes doesn't matter in this instance. Her enemies would do this to her if they could.).

Men haven't gone to jail for similar activities since the S&L Crisis of 30 years ago. There is no chance that if the S&L Crisis were to occur now that any would be convicted. The system continues to exploit We the People and there is no one and no thing capable of ending that corruption.

I expect that before I shuffle off this mortal coil, this nation will belong to the ages. It will have been assassinated by those who benefited most from it.


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