Why Are We Occupying Afghanistan Again?
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Dr. William Brydon, the only British survivor of the 1842 defeat of an entire British army between Kabul & Jalalabad
Although the phrase has been reworked and endlessly repeated-- primarily by high school history teachers-- I believe it was George Santayana who first said "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" (in the first volume of The Life of Reason). Today, though, I have nothing to say about Alexander the Great, the Czarist Russians, The British, the Great Game or the Soviets and their misadventures in Central Asia. Let's keep this little history lesson all post-9/11.
Eric Margolis is best known as "an expert" on the Middle East, primarily in Canada, where he's a contributing editor for the Toronto Sun and a go-to journalist for all things Asia and all things Islam. Here in the states we know him as someone who CNN and Fox use frequently. He made his bones embedded with the mujahadeen when they were fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan before most Americans knew what embedded journalists were. Margolis is a conservative, though decidedly not a neo-conservative.
Yesterday he endeavored to teach his Canadian readers a little history about the current conflict in Afghanistan without once mentioning Alexander and Roxanna, the Simla Manifesto, or even Leonid Brezhnev or Mikhail Gorbachev. He starts with a version of another much-quoted aphorism, California Senator Hiram Johnson's 1918 statement that "The first casualty when war comes is truth," although some insist he got it from either Aeschylus or Sun Tzu. Margolis's point is that the current tragedy in Afghanistan is based on an utterly false premise, that "we've got to fight terrorists over there so we don't have to fight them at home." Few know better than him, through years of on-the-ground, gritty first hand experience how utterly untue this is. Americans, though they oppose escalating the war and though they tend to be unfocused and confused about Afghanistan, also tend to think the World Trade towers attacks were planned out either by the Taliban or by al-Qaeda in Afghanistan with the connivance of the Taliban. "False," says Margolis.
The 9/11 attacks were planned in Germany and Spain, and conducted mainly by U.S.-based Saudis to punish America for supporting Israel.
Taliban, a militant religious, anti-Communist movement of Pashtun tribesmen, was totally surprised by 9/11. Taliban received U.S. aid until May, 2001. The CIA was planning to use Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida to stir up Muslim Uighurs against Chinese rule, and Taliban against Russia's Central Asian allies.
Al-Qaida only numbered 300 members. Most have been killed. A handful escaped to Pakistan. Only a few remain in Afghanistan. Yet President Barack Obama insists 68,000 or more U.S. troops must stay in Afghanistan to fight al-Qaida and prevent extremists from re-acquiring "terrorist training camps."
This claim, like Saddam Hussein's non-existent weapons of mass destruction, is a handy slogan to market war to the public... Taliban are the sons of the U.S.-backed mujahidin who defeated the Soviets in the 1980s. As I have been saying since 9/11, Taliban never was America's enemy. Instead of invading Afghanistan in 2001, the U.S. should have paid Taliban to uproot al-Qaida.
The Pashtun tribes want to end foreign occupation and drive out the Afghan Communists, who now dominate the U.S.-installed Kabul regime. But the U.S. has blundered into a full-scale war not just with Taliban, but with most of Afghanistan's fierce Pashtun tribes, who comprise over half the population.
Obama is wrestling with widening the war. After eight years of military operations costing $236 billion US, the U.S. commander in Afghanistan just warned of the threat of "failure," a.k.a. defeat. Canada has so far wasted $16 billion Cdn. on the war. Western occupation forces will be doomed if the Afghan resistance ever gets modern anti-aircraft and anti-tank missiles.
The U.S. is sinking ever deeper into the South Asian morass. Washington is trying to arm-twist Pakistan into being more obedient and widening the war against its own independent-minded Pashtun tribes-- wrongly called "Taliban."
Washington's incredibly ham-handed efforts to use $7.5 billion US to bribe Pakistan's feeble, corrupt government and army, take control of military promotions, and get a grip on Pakistan's nuclear arsenal, have Pakistan's soldiers on the verge of revolt.
Obama has been under intense pressure from flag-waving Republicans, much of the media, and the hawkish national security establishment to expand the war. Israel's supporters, including many Congressional Democrats, want to see the U.S. seize Pakistan's nuclear arms and expand the Afghan
war into Iran.
Obama should admit Taliban is not and never was a threat to the West; that the wildly exaggerated al-Qaida has been mostly eradicated; and that the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan is causing more damage to U.S. interests in the Muslim world-- now 25% of all humanity-- than Bin Laden and his few rag-tag allies. The bombing in Madrid and London, and conspiracy in Toronto, were all horribly wrongheaded protests by young Muslims against the Afghan war.
We are not going to change the way Afghans treat their women by waging war on them, or bring democracy through rigged elections.
The U.S. presence in Afghanistan, which, understandably is now widely looked at by the people there as a horribly foreign and often brutal and deadly occupation of their country, is making the resistance bigger, stronger and more widespread. In Friday's Boston Globe Bryan Bender pointed to American intelligence reports showing that the insurgents battling U.S. troops are fighting for lots of reasons but being religiously motivated Talban supporters is not high on the list of most of them; some are anti-Taliban. Only about 10% of the insurgency is Taliban-oriented now. No doubt, though, thousands will flock to collect the bribes Obama is leaning towards giveing Afghans who agree to forsake the Taliban.
Americans don't get Afghanistan, don't get Pashtunwali and need to pack up and leave the Afghans to themselves. As Alan Grayson (D-FL) said a few days ago, the best foreign policy is to just leave people alone. Grayson:
I’ve been to 175 countries all around the world including Afghanistan, including every country in that region, and what I’ve seen everywhere I go is that there are some commonalties everywhere you go. Everywhere you go people want to fall in love. It’s an interesting thing. Everywhere you go, people love children. Everywhere, they love children. Everywhere you go, there’s a taboo against violence. Every single place you go. And everywhere you go, people want to be left alone. And that’s the best foreign policy of all. Just to leave people alone.
Make sense to you? Grayson was one of the 32 Democrats who voted against the supplemental budget to fund the war back on June 16. No Means No is an opportunity to thank him and his colleagues and to encourage other members of Congres sto get on board. Please click the link and lend a hand.
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11 Comments:
This article is baloney.
The taliban are al-qaeda's protectors and supporters, militarily and polically.
taliban = al qaeda, al qaeda = taliban
I admire Eric Margolis, he is a passionate thinker; we've had him on our show many times. I don't always agree with him, but I always listen.
Here is a link to an interactive Google map on Afghanistan; NATO troop levels, mission outlines, and fatalities. It will be interesting to see how these numbers change in a year.
http://bit.ly/10K8c8
"The taliban are al-qaeda's protectors and supporters, militarily and polically."
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Not so, Me. The two have had many differences. They agree on one big one: the issue of territorial sovereignty. But if the various Afghani warlords were to suddenly lay down arms tomorrow and hand the country over to the Taliban and the US withdraw, the Taliban would just as surely take up arms against al-Qaeda. The two groups definitely don't get along.
Amazing how much Grayson sounds like Ron Paul when speaking about Afghanistan and about the Fed. Just amazing.
"Sovereignty, my ass. Control, yes. But popular sovereignty - meaning the population owns the government and not vice versa? Not on your life!"
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You do realize that Afghanistan has never had a government "owned" by the people in thousands of years of existence--and still doesn't? So the term "territorial sovereignty" is a simple reflection of reality in a falsely defined state inhabited by tribes, led by power-aggrandizing warlords. If you're looking for notions of democracy there, Me, you're going to be looking for a long, long time.
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"To say that the taliban and al qaeda are somehow "different" is equivalent to saying that Baptists and Mormons are somehow "different". They may claim they are, but an outsider would say that by any objective measure of their behavior, they are identical."
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Then the outsider would be a blundering fool to make predictions based on their conclusions. Why don't you read up on the Taliban and al-Qaeda first, before deciding that all people you don't like act the same way, and for the same reasons? It wouldn't take long. At least, read a little bit about the origins and motivations of each, so you can come to some conclusions about each organization based on facts.
Eric has most of this correct except for one minor detail. 911 was an inside job as much as the Reichstag fire. To believe different is the height of naivete.
Sorry, that's just the ugly truth.
Balakirev:
By their deeds, I know them.
There's nothing else to say.
Why are we "occupying" Afghanistan again?...
Two good reasons come to mind immediately:
1. On Sept. 11 2001, 3000 American civilians were gruesomely incinerated in an UNPROVOKED attack in New York City and our nations capital. These weren't military targets. These were our brothers, sisters, Moms, Dads, sons, daughters, spouses and friends. Al qaeda was known to be hiding out in Afghanistan, so where else would we go to find, interrogate and kill them all? The attack on U.S. soil demanded an appropriate response and this is the way America responds to terrorism. Period.
2. We send a message to the world. If your country gives safe haven to terrorists and allows America-hating terrorist training camps to operate and recruit followers, there will be consequences. This is viewed as a threat to our national security. Our military will come to your country, stay there for 8+ years and blow up a bunch of shit and kill a bunch of your people and there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it. This sends a clear message and is an effective policy for keeping cowardly rats in their caves. We have the resources and resolve to stay as long as it takes to kill as many enemies as we can and prevent future attacks. If you mess with the bull, you get the horns - right up your ass.
The only thing that guarantees peace is total fucking destruction of those who attack us. If you believe otherwise, you are mistaken.
Some says here : Oh, what else we could do, than to kill them all, the taliban attacked us on the 9/11, we just defend ourselves in Afghanistan.
Question> Who told you that they did it? Answer> The same people who told you Iraq is full of dangerous weapons...
Please, dear American friends, dont let yourself be fooled by the
media, think about it, those people never offended you, the search for Osama is a nonsense, taliban is not equal to afghan people, islam is not your enemy. Your enemy is the FED. If you dont believ, think about it> who is the only one, whos got money out of this? The one and only who is interested in escalating the war, so they can lend more money for the US gov., that they print! After all these, how can you belive that the reason that you wage war there is pure and led by good thoughts, human rights, etc...? Are you completely blind? Please wake up before too late.
Who really were the 9/11 bombers?
Lets look at the actual men behind the attack.
Mohamed Atta, pilot and group leader
Age: 33.
Nationality: Egyptian.
Abdulaziz Alomari
Age: Unknown.
Nationality: Saudi.
Satam M.A. Al Suqami
Age: 25.
Nationality: Saudi.
Wail M. Alshehri
Age: 28.
Nationality: Saudi.
Waleed M. Alshehri
Age: 22.
Nationality: Saudi.
Fayez Rashid Ahmed Hassan Al Qadi Banihammad
Age: 28.
Nationality: Saudi.
Ahmed Alghamdi
Age: 21.
Nationality: Saudi.
Hamza Alghamdi
Age: 20.
Nationality: Saudi.
Mohand Alshehri
Age: 21.
Nationality: Unknown.
Hani Hanjour, pilot and group leader
Age: 29.
Nationality: Saudi.
Salem Alhazmi
Age: Uknown.
Nationality: Saudi.
Ziad Samir Jarrah, pilot and group leader
Age: 26.
Nationality: Lebanese.
Saeed Alghamdi
Age: 25.
Nationality: Saudi.
Ahmed Ibrahim A. Al Haznawi
Age: 20.
Nationality: Saudi.
Hani Hanjour, pilot and group leader
Age: 29.
Nationality: Saudi.
Salem Alhazmi
Age: Uknown.
Nationality: Saudi.
Saeed Alghamdi
Age: 25.
Nationality: Saudi.
Ahmed Ibrahim A. Al Haznawi
Age: 20.
Nationality: Saudi.
WHAT DO THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO DO WITH AFGHANISTAN??? FUCK ALL!
"The only thing that guarantees peace is total fucking destruction of those who attack us. If you believe otherwise, you are mistaken."
I am an American student, merely reading this article and it's responses for a paper I am writing this finals week. I felt so compelled to respond to the statement in quotes above, when while reading it here in my University library I began sobbing publically. I do not fail to recognize that my words will likely be pushed away from those they are directed at, but never the less, I will share and hope only that it will hit home for at least one individual. They are not aimed from anger, or to cause attack, just to view things from a broader sense.
When i read your response, I felt that you are in great pain. As we all experience and handle emotions differently, you have hardened your pain to hate. It is easier to hate than to love, because love requires feeling emmense compassion, and too often the breaking of hearts. Hate is numbness, it is fire that blazes and does not warm, but burns. It in some sense, provides a manifestation for our anguish. I see that fear has brought many of us to think that we must fight, that destruction of all enemies, as you say, is the answer to peace. I do not know if your hate, your fear, is because you lost someone in the 911 tragedy, or a form of commpassion that you have established for those who were directly impacted. In either case, I aim to remind you that not all people, infact very very few, who inhabit the lands we now occupy are our enemies. Most of these people who are injured and destroyed, are just like our brothers and sisters, our loved ones. So many of us have chosen a path of revenge, of destruction, forgetting along the way that it began this way. By claiming that they (the people of Afghanistan)are all one and the same, that by killing them off we eliminate threat, is to say that we are All terrorists. That is precisely the thoughts that lead some few individuals to believe that it was okay to kill the innocent people of the US in 911. We now allow ourselves to do the same. You know as well as I that our families and fellow citizens did not deserve to die; how far a stretch is it for you to admit that these people do not either. Afghanistan is populated by so much more than Taliban or Al'Quida, no matter what you deam those groups, and the population I speak of is people. Like you and I, like those who died on our soil and those who die today on their's, we all want to live and to do so peacefully.
Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity... it makes no sense, none at all.
Please watch Michael Franti's documentory on occupation; I know I'm not alone.
Meet the people you wish to kill. See if once you eliminate the divide, you can still pull the trigger.
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