Trump Just Ordered All U.S. Troops Out Of Syria (Again)-- Lindsey Graham Has A Breakdown... Is This Withdrawal Good Or Bad Or Just Too Complicated For Trump To Be Involved With?
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Having served their purpose, the Kurds are being fucked-over by the U.S. once again. Lindsey Graham knows how to reach Trump when he doesn't pick up his phone-- you just call in to Fox & Friends instead (above). And there's always the ole tweet machine:
On Saturday, Reese Erlich, currently reporting from Turkey, explained what Turkey is up to in Northern Syria. Maybe Lindsey should have paid attention so Trump's decision wouldn't have surprised him as much. Turkey has its own agenda there and isn't following ours-- which is exactly what, anyway?
This morning Trump ordered U.S. forces to start withdrawing from the Turkish-Syrian border region, which is what caused Graham's flip out. The Washington Post called it "the clearest sign yet that the Trump administration was washing its hands of an explosive situation between the Turkish military and U.S.-allied Kurdish fighters... Trump, in a series of Twitter messages Monday, suggested that the United States was shouldering too much of the burden-- and the cost-- of fighting the Islamic State. He rebuked European nations for not repatriating citizens who had joined the extremist group, claiming that the United States was being played for a 'sucker.' And he chided his own Kurdish allies, who he said were 'paid massive amounts of money and equipment' to fight the militants."
The withdrawal followed a late Sunday statement by the White House that the United States would not intervene in a long-threatened Turkish offensive into northern Syria. The announcement, which signaled an abrupt end to a months-long American effort to broker peace between two important allies, came after a call between Trump and Turkish President Recap Tayyip Erdogan.A former senior Trump administration official on the unwillingness of Senate Republicans to almost ever criticize Señor Trumpanzee: "Nobody wants to be the zebra that strays from the pack and gets gobbled up by the lion. They have to hold hands and jump simultaneously." Still a few other usually quiescent Trump enablers who denounced his decision this morning included Liz Cheney (WY), Adam Kinzinger (IL), Peter King (NY) and Marco Rubio (FL), who warned that withdrawing the troops would be a "grave mistake that will have implications far beyond Syria" and that "It would confirm Iran’s view of this administration and embolden them to escalate hostile attacks which in turn could trigger much broader and more dangerous regional war."
Erdogan said in a speech Monday that the withdrawal began soon after their phone call.
A U.S. official confirmed to the Washington Post that American troops left observation posts in the border villages of Tel Abyad and Ras al-Ayn at 6:30 a.m. local time.
The fast-moving developments threatened a fresh military conflagration in a large swath of northern Syria, stretching from east of the Euphrates River to the border with Iraq. Syrian Kurds had established an autonomous zone in the area during more than eight years of Syria’s civil war.
Ankara, however, has been increasingly unnerved by the Kurdish presence, and by the close ties between U.S.-allied Syrian Kurdish fighters and the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, or PKK, a militant group that has fought a long insurgency against the Turkish state.
For months, Erdogan has been threatening an imminent invasion, as Trump administration officials attempted to work out an accommodation that would satisfy Turkish demands for border security while providing a measure of protection for the U.S.-allied Syrian-Kurdish force.
But on Sunday, the United States appeared to throw up its hands. White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said the Turkish leader would “soon be moving forward” with dispatching troops to battle the Kurdish forces, known as the Syrian Democratic Forces, or SDF. Ankara views the group as a terrorist-linked entity, but the SDF has fought closely alongside the U.S. military as a primary partner against the Islamic State.
“The United States armed forces will not support or be involved in the operation, and United States forces, having defeated the ISIS territorial ‘caliphate,’ will no longer be in the immediate area,” Grisham said in a statement. ISIS is another name for the Islamic State, the militant group whose rise drew the U.S. military into Syria.
The SDF, in a statement critical of the United States, said the American troops have begun pulling out.
“The United States forces have not fulfilled their obligations and withdrew their forces from the border area with Turkey,” the statement said. “This Turkish military operation in north and east Syria will have a big negative impact on our war against Daesh and will destroy all stability that was reached in the last few years.” Daesh is an Arabic acronym for the Islamic State.
It added that the group reserves the right to defend itself against Turkish aggression.
Erdogan, who has portrayed a Turkish incursion as necessary to protect his country’s borders, has spoken in recent weeks of resettling millions of Syrian refugees in Turkey in a “safe zone” in northern Syria, a plan that has been criticized by refugee advocates as well as local Syrian Kurds who could be displaced by such a proposal.
On Saturday, Erdogan said the invasion, dubbed Operation Peace Fountain, could begin “as soon as today or maybe tomorrow.”
U.S. officials depicted the impending offensive, and the U.S. troop withdrawal, as a dramatic turn after their prolonged attempt to hammer out an arrangement that would allay the Turks’ concerns about Syrian Kurdish forces close to their border, while also averting a battle they fear will be bloody for Kurdish fighters whom the Pentagon sees as stalwart allies.
Military officials point out that Kurdish assistance is still required to avoid a return of the Islamic State in Syria and to guard facilities where Islamic State militants and their families are being held.
A senior U.S. official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an evolving situation, said the U.S. government “has no idea” what the Turkish operation would look like, whether it would be a small, symbolic incursion or a major offensive intended to push as far as 25 miles into Syria.
U.S. officials said an operation deep into Syria could further jeopardize the security of prisons holding Islamic State fighters. “There are many potential disastrous outcomes to this,” the official said.
The White House announcement comes only two days after the Pentagon completed its most recent joint patrol with Turkish forces, a central element of the U.S. effort to build trust in northern Syria. But similar patrols and other measures overseen from a joint U.S.-Turkish military hub in southern Turkey have not reduced Ankara’s impatience to establish the buffer zone it has envisioned.
Speaking to reporters on Friday, Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper described ongoing U.S.-Turkish cooperation in northern Syria, saying that his Turkish counterpart had agreed in a call last week “that we need to make the security mechanism work.”
In negotiations, the United States had said it would agree to a strip along the border to be cleared of Syrian Kurdish fighters and jointly patrolled by the United States and Turkey on the ground and in the air. That strip is about five miles wide, only about a quarter of what the Turks have demanded.
The joint patrols are taking place in only about a third of the border length, with the idea of gradually expanding them. In addition to not liking U.S. terms for the agreement, Erdogan believes the United States is dragging its feet in implementing it.
“Mr. Trump gave the order; he ordered to pull out. But this came late,” Erdogan told reporters in Ankara on Monday. “We cannot accept the threats of terrorist organizations.”
Erdogan’s plan to send up to 3 million Syrian refugees into the 140-mile-long strip also runs counter to what the United States says was part of the agreement they had reached to allow only the 700,000 to 800,000 refugees who originally fled the area to resettle there. Turkey currently hosts more than 3.6 million Syrian refugees, but the government has recently begun deporting hundreds back to Syria as public sentiment turns against the migrants.
She should have said #ErdoganIsNotOurFriend-- Turkey is
Ibrahim Kalin, a spokesman for Erdogan, wrote on Twitter that Turkey has no interest in occupying or changing the demographics in northeastern Syria and that the “safe zone” would serve two purposes: secure Turkey’s borders and allow refugees to return home. [By allow he means "force."]
After months of warning about the turmoil such a move could create, U.S. officials said they are now watching Turkey’s actions closely to inform their own decisions about how quickly they must move the hundreds of troops expected to be affected.
“We're going to get out of the way,” another U.S. official said.
There are about 1,000 U.S. troops in northeastern Syria.
The SDF also predicted that Islamic State fighters would break out of prison camps the SDF manages in different areas of Syria.
The potential for greater risk to Islamic State prisons and camps comes after months of unsuccessful efforts by the Trump administration to persuade countries in Europe and elsewhere to repatriate their citizens.
The White House statement said that “Turkey will now be responsible for all ISIS fighters” in that area. “The United States will not hold them for what could be many years and great cost to the United States taxpayer,” Grisham said.
Erdogan said Monday that Turkey has “an approach to this issue” of ISIS, without specifying what it was.
The United Nations is also concerned about the impact that any Turkish operation would have on the protection of civilians in northeastern Syria, Panos Moumtzis, U.N. regional humanitarian coordinator for Syria, said in a telephone interview.
“We want our message to all governments and actors on the ground to be to make sure that this latest development does not have an impact first of all on a new displacement of people,” he said.
The United Nations already provides services to approximately 700,000 people every month in the northeast. Moumtzis emphasized the importance of freedom of movement of civilians and ensuring the continuation of access to humanitarian groups. He stressed that any movement of Syrians must be done voluntarily and with safety and dignity.
“We have not had any specific instructions on” the safe zone, he said, adding that the United Nations has a contingency plan depending on how wide and deep the safe zone would be.
The planned offensive comes amid already heightened U.S. tensions with its NATO ally Turkey, over Ankara’s plans to operate a sophisticated Russian air defense system.
UPDATE: Trump Backed Down Already
He says he meant he was only redeploying 50 troops. Everyone is laughing at him.
Labels: Erdogan, ISIS, Kurdistan, Lindsey Graham, Syria, Turkey
7 Comments:
"Nobody wants to be the zebra that strays from the pack and gets gobbled up by the lion."
They will all flip at once, if events force them to.
The concept at work is "HERD IMMUNITY"
@9:36 am
the only "event" that might matter would be Trump approval among Republicans somehow dropping below 50 percent in a few different polls. 'til then (by which I mean NEVER), don't expect anything.
If I had my way, I would round up Trump, every Congressional Republican, and every DINO. I'd hand them each an M-4 and a few grenades, then I'd drop them off at the front line and let them fight the wars they cause.
Paul Krugman is right on the money. What's the quid pro quo in this move? 'Cause sure as hell there is one. Trump is ruining of further day by day.
Should the US go to war for the Kurds as a necessity for the defense of the US?
Should the US go to war for Turkey as a necessity for the defense of the US?
Should the US go to war for Syria as a necessity for the defense of the US?
Would draftees, if the US had a draft, be willing to go to the sands of Syria for any of the above?
The answer to all of these questions is no.
Kennedy went to the wall over missiles in Cuba as a direct threat to the security of the US, though no Cubans were fighting in the US against the US. Everyone accepted the reasoning.
Turkey has Kurds active in Turkey against the Turkish government. Turkey claims it is acting in self defense, not against weapons aimed at it but not in use, but against people fighting against it.
Turkey has a plausible claim if one accepts nationalism as legitimate. The Kurds, who would like to see a land they can call their own also have a plausible claim under nationalism.
The US should not be there taking sides as none of the parties have an agenda that is defending the US. What is alarming is how quickly politicians rise up to defend foreign intervention that is uncalled for, presumably willing to spend American lives for, well, all they can say is we have to stand by our word. Let Lindsay Graham send his family members over there.
The creation of a volunteer army that can be commanded to go anywhere and do anything was a huge mistake. A democracy must have a citizen army or the government will not be restrained from engagements that the citizenry would never risk their lives for.
Trump is looking for a distraction headline to drown out impeachment headlines. He won't stop till he finds one.
How long is the military going to put up with Trump's foolishness? I can see them twisting the arms of those Congress critters they helped make quite wealthy over the years to get busy and take Trump down - before they do.
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