Monday, September 16, 2019

Who Would Benefit From A Biden Presidency? And Who Would Benefit If A Progressive Won Instead?

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Sleazy lawyer and multimillionaire, Vicente González bought his South Texas congressional seat in 2016 by spending $1,850,000 of his own money against progressive primary opponent Juan Palacios, Jr. González tricked the gullible Congressional Progressive Caucus into endorsing him, went on the radio and made fun of them and their issues and immediately joined the Blue Dogs, where he quickly ran up an "F"-rated voting record. Since 2016 his record has never veered away from a low "F" rating. Vicente González is a member in good standing of the Republican wing of the Democratic Party; when you hear someone use the word "Democrap," they are describing Vicente González and others like him. It was only a matter of time for someone like González to endorse Biden. And yesterday he announced he was withdrawing his endorsement of fellow Texan, Julián Castro, and bestowing it on the more ideologically copacetic Biden. Of Biden's 13 endorsements from current House members, 10 are from conservative New Dems and Blue Dogs. Former House members who have endorsed him are not just New Dems and Blue Dogs, but are also primarily lobbyists, like Al Wynn and Richard Swett. And lobbyists love Biden-- and Biden loves lobbyists.

At the same time González was doing Biden a solid by stabbing Castro in the back, Our Revolution was sending out an e-mail to its list reminding members that "Since his campaign launched, and throughout Thursday's debate, Joe Biden has been trying to scare Americans away from supporting Medicare for All. His lowest moment was when he told seniors in Iowa that under Bernie's plan, 'all the Medicare you have is gone.' In reality, of course, Bernie's proposal does not strip Medicare from seniors; it makes Medicare available to everyone. Corporate Democrats like Joe Biden are backed by unlimited special interest money. They will do anything-- even misrepresent the truth-- to stop us from guaranteeing health care as a human right... President Obama openly said in 2018 that Medicare for All is a 'good idea,' and we could not agree more with Joe Biden's former boss. However, even Obama's endorsement of Medicare for All won't stop Joe Biden from doing everything he can to stop us from guaranteeing health care as a human right in America."

Biden should withdraw from the race and go sit in the corner with a dunce cap on. Ole Status Quo Joe was at it again, this time privately praising pharmaceutical companies, at a high dollar fundraiser in Dallas, despite publicly (and obviously falsely) "supporting" initiatives to cut drug prices. He's a real piece of crap. Bernie: "At a time when their behavior is literally killing people every day, America needs a president who isn't going to appease and compliment drug companies-- we need a president who will take on the pharmaceutical industry-- whether they like it or not. When we defeat Donald Trump, that's exactly what we are going to do."

As Eoin Higgins reported Friday for Common Dreams, Bernie's campaign is also pushing back on Biden's lies about Medicare-for-All. Faiz Shakir, Bernie's campaign manager: "Having a real debate about the healthcare crisis in America is critically important. It's disappointing Joe Biden is echoing the deceptions and falsehoods of the healthcare industry which is spending millions to protect the $100 billion in profits they made last year... Joe Biden may love the insurance industry and the outrageously high premiums, co-payments, and out-of-pocket expenses they charge us. Most Americans don't. It is time to create a healthcare system that works for all of us, and not just the insurance companies and the drug companies."




Business Insider ran an interesting experiment to determine act would happen if all the flotsam and jetsam dropped out now, leaving just Biden, Bernie and Elizabeth Warren as the contenders for the nomination. Bernie and Elizabeth would both surge while Biden has the least to gain. Yep, Status Quo Joe is the one who currently benefits the most from such a large field.
Over the past several weeks, three candidates vying for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination have distinguished themselves as frontrunners: Former Vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, and Sen. Bernie Sanders.

Yet, at the close of the September primary debates, there are still a total of 18 candidates in the race, most of whom have virtually no shot at becoming president. Biden is polling at an average of roughly 30%, Warren at 19%, and Sanders at 18%, according to an aggregation from RealClearPolitics. The next-closest candidate, Kamala Harris, is stuck at 7%.

The hanger-on candidates are basically real-life statistical noise, making it harder to discern who's actually likely to win the primary race by detracting polling points from their opponents in the lead.

So: What if we just got rid of them? How would things shake out between Biden, Bernie, and Warren?

Thanks to the unique way Insider conducts its polls, we can test exactly that. Unlike most polling organizations, Insider/Surveymonkey's poll asks would-be voters which candidates they would be happy with if they were to become president, rather than naming just one candidate. Using that data, we ran a mathematical model that analyzed what it would look like if we eliminated every candidate except for the top three and re-allocated those voters to Biden, Sanders, and Warren.

If we Thanos-snapped Harris, Buttigieg, Booker, O'Rourke, Yang, Klobuchar, Castro, Bennet, Bullock, Delaney, Gabbard, Ryan, Williamson, Steyer, and De Blasio out of existence, here's what the field would look like, according to the polls we've conducted this summer:




For Biden, we'd have a situation where 30% of his fans would like him and him alone, 37.4% percent deciding between him and Sanders or him and Warren, and a third of his supporters fine with all three.

That's compared to a current situation where 16.1% of those satisfied with him are satisfied with him alone, 15% have him as one of two choices, and 18% have him as one of three candidates they're satisfied with.

For Sanders, we'd have 24% of his backers liking him alone, 42% supporting either Warren or Biden, and a third liking all three.

Right now, 15% of his supporters like him alone, 18% of them like him and just one other person, and 19% like him and two other people, with the remaining supporters deciding between four or more. Those numbers are better than Biden's.

For Warren, 15% of her fans would approve of her and her alone, which is three times her current level but still half of Biden's lockdown rate. 51% of them would be satisfied with her and one other person, and a third would approve of all three.

As of now, only 5% like her and her alone, 12% like her and one other person, and 19% like her and two others.

It's also important to note that some things don't change. As of now, overall, Warren is known and satisfactory for 45% of Democrats, about 46% of respondents know of Sanders and would be satisfied with him, and 47% would be fine with Biden. Those numbers are the same whether you've got three contenders or 19.





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4 Comments:

At 7:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

corporations. same answer to both.

Bernie would have to sign or veto crap passed by Pelosi and scummer. he's a party first guy (proof is 2016), so he'd sign. He'd wrinkle his nose, but be damn sure he'd sign.

Bernie might give a nice speech every so often and governance might get a tick better, if Pelosi can be tricked into passing a little funding, but who would really get greased is the same -- corporations.

 
At 10:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the DNC will not allow a progressive to win.

 
At 2:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The DNC wouldn't mind if Warren got the nomination, especially if it derailed Sanders. Warren would have a difficult time winning against Trump and her watered down market based reforms and plans would pose little threat to the 1%. What would it take for DWT to recognize that Warren does not equal Sanders. As it is Warren poses the biggest threat to Sanders and his class based movement.

 
At 6:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The .1% knows that neither Bernie nor Elizabeth really are any danger. But they are terrified that their next big recession coupled with the rhetoric of both will cause 10s of millions of epiphanies among voters (not among the media nor blogosphere, naturally). Their next big recession cannot NOT happen and if it happens before next, say, July, it could result in a lot of voters deciding it's time to listen to those who have been talking about who/what is responsible.

The .1% got lucky in 2008 in that voters were too stupid to know that obamanation was a servant of the money and not a servant of the people.

Frankly, I don't think either Bernie or Elizabeth has any FDR in them, but their rhetoric is much closer than anyone before FDR.

BTW: FDR didn't even run as FDR. He ran as kind of a biden or booker type. It wasn't until he took his oath that he became FDR. I don't know if he ran on a canard to get elected by a nation of hapless rubes or if he became enlightened once he got the oval office and could take inventory of all that was happening.
Bernie and Elizabeth (to a bit lesser extent) are both RUNNING as FDR-ish, hoping that the electorate are either desperate or are NOT the hapless rubes that they are. But I am pretty sure neither one has any intent to ACT like an FDR should they take the oath.

 

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