Billionaires freaked when there was talk about eliminating them. But no one was talking about guillotines or firing squads-- just more equitable tax plans. That's what Bernie proposed, what AOC proposed and what Elizabeth Warren proposed. And the billionaires and their lackeys went bonkers.
A littler history. The top marginal tax rates on multimillionaires-- there were no billionaires back then-- was 25% in the Roaring Twenties, a purely Republican economy that led directly to the Great Depression. FDR and the Democratic-controlled Congress raised the top rate to 63% in 1932 and then 79% in 1936. In 1941-- as World War II raged-- the top rate went up to 81%, 88% the following year and a much fairer 94% in 1944. After 1946, the very wealthy and their conservative allies in both parties worked to bring the rate down, first back to 91% and in 1964 to 77% and then 70% in 1965 both cuts under conservative Democrat Lyndon Johnson with congresses largely controlled by a coalition of conservative (mostly Southern) Democrats and Republicans. That was already way too low but in 1982, another conservative Democrat, Jimmy Carter lowered the top rate to 50%. After Reagan was completely senile and with virtually no participation the government, Republicans around him lowered the rate to 38.5 and then 28. It went up and down within a very low tight range between 28 and 39 .6 ever since. Currently the top marginal rate on regular income is 37%, although the system is so riven with loop-holes that few billionaires pay anywhere near that amount.
Jamie Dimon went after Elizabeth Warren this week, claiming she "vilifies successful people," presumably defining "successful people" as the ones who have accumulated the most wealth. AOC's proposal to raise the top marginal tax rate to a measly 70%-- instead of to the 90% level where it belongs-- is wildly popular among non-billionaires. Last February a Morning Consult poll for Politico, in line with similar polls, found that just 9% of registered votes think upper income people pay too much in taxes while 63% say they pay too little. Among Democrats 78% said the rich don't pay enough as do 61% of independents and 46% of Republicans.
They were also asked if they think the tax system favors the wealthy. 73% of registered votes said yes and only 14% disagreed. 87% of Democrats, 74% of independents and 55% of Republicans agree that the tax system favors the wealthy. 77% agreed that the system has too many loop-holes (including 82% of Democrats, 78% of independents and 71% of Republicans).
When asked if the wealthy should pay higher taxes 54% of registered voters agreed strongly and 22% somewhat agreed; that's 76%. Among Democrats 74% agreed strongly and 17% agreed somewhat, which makes 91%. Among Independents 52% agreed strongly and 22% agreed somewhat (74%). And among Republicans 32% agreed strongly and 30% agreed somewhat (62%).
They tested version of the wealth tax plans advocated by Elizabeth Warren and Bernie with this question: "Do you favor or oppose a recent proposal to levy a new, 2 percent annual tax on all assets owned by households with a net worth of $50 million or more, and an additional 1 percent tax on households with a net worth of more than $1 billion?" Among all registered voters, 39% agreed strongly and 22% agreed somewhat (61%). Among Democrats, it's 53% strongly and 21% somewhat, a total of 74%. Even among Republicans the overall number is 50% in favor and just 30% opposed.
Another related question was "Do you favor or oppose a recent proposal to increase the marginal tax rate on income over $10 million a year to 70 percent?" And once again, among all registered voters 27% strongly favored and 18% somewhat favored 45%, which went up to 38% strongly and 22% somewhat among Democrats, a total of 60%.
The best of the plans is Bernie's, which would put a 1% tax on the top 0.1% of households-- so a 1% tax on net worth above $32 million for a married couple, which means a married couple with $32.5 million would pay a wealth tax of just $5,000. It would rise to 2% on households with a net worth between $50 million and $250 million, 3% on net worth up to $500 million, 4% on net worth up to $1 billion, and up to an 8% tax on wealth over $10 billion.
That said, billionaire Michael Bloomberg, of late claiming to be a Democrat, is filing to run for president, at least in Alabama.
A littler history. The top marginal tax rates on multimillionaires-- there were no billionaires back then-- was 25% in the Roaring Twenties, a purely Republican economy that led directly to the Great Depression. FDR and the Democratic-controlled Congress raised the top rate to 63% in 1932 and then 79% in 1936. In 1941-- as World War II raged-- the top rate went up to 81%, 88% the following year and a much fairer 94% in 1944. After 1946, the very wealthy and their conservative allies in both parties worked to bring the rate down, first back to 91% and in 1964 to 77% and then 70% in 1965 both cuts under conservative Democrat Lyndon Johnson with congresses largely controlled by a coalition of conservative (mostly Southern) Democrats and Republicans. That was already way too low but in 1982, another conservative Democrat, Jimmy Carter lowered the top rate to 50%. After Reagan was completely senile and with virtually no participation the government, Republicans around him lowered the rate to 38.5 and then 28. It went up and down within a very low tight range between 28 and 39 .6 ever since. Currently the top marginal rate on regular income is 37%, although the system is so riven with loop-holes that few billionaires pay anywhere near that amount.
Jamie Dimon went after Elizabeth Warren this week, claiming she "vilifies successful people," presumably defining "successful people" as the ones who have accumulated the most wealth. AOC's proposal to raise the top marginal tax rate to a measly 70%-- instead of to the 90% level where it belongs-- is wildly popular among non-billionaires. Last February a Morning Consult poll for Politico, in line with similar polls, found that just 9% of registered votes think upper income people pay too much in taxes while 63% say they pay too little. Among Democrats 78% said the rich don't pay enough as do 61% of independents and 46% of Republicans.
They were also asked if they think the tax system favors the wealthy. 73% of registered votes said yes and only 14% disagreed. 87% of Democrats, 74% of independents and 55% of Republicans agree that the tax system favors the wealthy. 77% agreed that the system has too many loop-holes (including 82% of Democrats, 78% of independents and 71% of Republicans).
When asked if the wealthy should pay higher taxes 54% of registered voters agreed strongly and 22% somewhat agreed; that's 76%. Among Democrats 74% agreed strongly and 17% agreed somewhat, which makes 91%. Among Independents 52% agreed strongly and 22% agreed somewhat (74%). And among Republicans 32% agreed strongly and 30% agreed somewhat (62%).
They tested version of the wealth tax plans advocated by Elizabeth Warren and Bernie with this question: "Do you favor or oppose a recent proposal to levy a new, 2 percent annual tax on all assets owned by households with a net worth of $50 million or more, and an additional 1 percent tax on households with a net worth of more than $1 billion?" Among all registered voters, 39% agreed strongly and 22% agreed somewhat (61%). Among Democrats, it's 53% strongly and 21% somewhat, a total of 74%. Even among Republicans the overall number is 50% in favor and just 30% opposed.
Another related question was "Do you favor or oppose a recent proposal to increase the marginal tax rate on income over $10 million a year to 70 percent?" And once again, among all registered voters 27% strongly favored and 18% somewhat favored 45%, which went up to 38% strongly and 22% somewhat among Democrats, a total of 60%.
The best of the plans is Bernie's, which would put a 1% tax on the top 0.1% of households-- so a 1% tax on net worth above $32 million for a married couple, which means a married couple with $32.5 million would pay a wealth tax of just $5,000. It would rise to 2% on households with a net worth between $50 million and $250 million, 3% on net worth up to $500 million, 4% on net worth up to $1 billion, and up to an 8% tax on wealth over $10 billion.
That said, billionaire Michael Bloomberg, of late claiming to be a Democrat, is filing to run for president, at least in Alabama.
Despite preparing to file the necessary paperwork in Alabama, Bloomberg has yet to make a final decision on a run, the spokesman added.Generally speaking, Democrats who ran as Democrats and on Democratic values did well across the country on Tuesday. Democrats who are politically like Bloomberg and who ran as Republican-lite candidates-- notably Jim Hood in Mississippi's gubernatorial race and Bob Andrzejczak in New Jersey's one state Senate race-- failed to enthuse base votes, who didn't bother voting, ceding both elections to the Republicans. No doubt Bloomberg's strategy is to count on a brokered convention that he can buy. And, without a doubt, that would mean 4 more years of Trump.
Bloomberg's possible entrance comes as former Vice President Joe Biden's campaign struggles to break out of the Democratic field and as Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, a liberal lawmaker who has railed against billionaires like Bloomberg, rises in the Democratic primary campaign. A possible Bloomberg bid would be sure to dramatically shake up the Democratic primary process.
The reason Bloomberg is filing in Alabama is strictly because of the state's early filing deadline. Despite it not being an early nominating state-- Alabamans will pick their Democratic nominee on March 3-- the state has a filing deadline on Friday.
Bloomberg has privately expressed concerns about the strength of the 2020 field, according to a person familiar with his thinking.
The billionaire's decision to lay the groundwork for a run comes as Warren rises in the polls.
"He certainly disagrees with a lot of what she's put out there," said the person. "But he thinks she's smart and has put a lot of thought into her policies."
Bloomberg publicly entertained a 2020 bid earlier this year, traveling the country to meet with voters and determine whether a run was possible. He told reporters during this public speculation that he was seriously considering a bid, to the point that he had decided he would self-fund a campaign.
"In terms of running for office, I ran three times. I used only my own money, so I didn't have to ask anybody what they wanted in return for a contribution," he told CNN in January. "The public liked that every time they elected me. And, if I ran again, I would do the same thing."
But Bloomberg decided in March that he would not run for president, even though he had been leaning toward it for months.
"As I've thought about a possible presidential campaign, the choice before me has become clear. Should I devote the next two years to talking about my ideas and record, knowing that I might never win the Democratic nomination? Or should I spend the next two years doubling down on the work that I am already leading and funding, and that I know can produce real and beneficial results for the country, right now," he wrote in an opinion piece. "I've come to realize that I'm less interested in talking than doing."
He added: "And I have concluded that, for now, the best way for me to help our country is by rolling up my sleeves and continuing to get work done."
Bloomberg, however, has begun to rethink that decision, in part, because he does not believe any of the current candidates are positioned to defeat Trump.
That is an unflattering indictment of the Democratic field by the former New York mayor, who found earlier this year that there would be a narrow path to victory with Biden in the race. Since then, however, Biden's campaign has failed to take off, struggling to both capture the Democratic base and to raise money, and Bloomberg's possible entry will represent a direct threat to the former vice president.
Howard Wolfson, Bloomberg's spokesman, said Bloomberg wants to "finish the job and ensure that Trump is defeated."
"But Mike is increasingly concerned that the current field of candidates is not well positioned to do that," Wolfson said. "If Mike runs he would offer a new choice to Democrats built on a unique record running America's biggest city, building a business from scratch and taking on some of America's toughest challenges as a high-impact philanthropist."
Wolfson added: "Based on his record of accomplishment, leadership and his ability to bring people together to drive change, Mike would be able to take the fight to Trump and win."
Bloomberg's possible run would be met with a series of serious questions from the Democratic base.
Rather than an asset, Bloomberg's wealth could be considered a knock against him. Candidates like Warren and others have decried self-funding campaigns and run hard against the impact that money has in politics.
When Bloomberg considered a run earlier this year, a number of Democratic operatives told CNN they believed that a Bloomberg campaign would be doomed by the mayor's positions on policing, ties to Wall Street and the fact that he had spent much of his time in politics as a Republican and independent.
But Bloomberg also would bring considerable strengths to a campaign, including his work on climate change and guns and the fact that he has spent millions on Democratic causes for years.
The reduction in the top tax rate from 70% to 50% in 1982 was Reagan's, not Jimmy Carter's as stated in this blog post.
ReplyDeleteAs someone who ranks my preferences in this primary Sanders first, Warren a more distant second, and then everyone else an even more distant third, the prospect of Bloomberg and Holder entering the race seems like it could be a gift to Sanders. Holder and Bloomberg are going to cannibalize Biden and Buttigieg's support base (especially Biden). It seems entirely possible that we end up with this being decided in convention, however, if you have Holder-Bloomberg-Biden-Buttigieg running in overlapping lanes, it also seems entirely possible that none hit the 15% threshold necessary to qualify for delegates.
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ReplyDeletethe most interesting thing is how CLUELESS these fuckers are. your presumption on the likely effect of Bloomberg's entry into the race is spot on. how is it HE doesn't know this? how is it none of these guys can figure out how repulsive their whining looks to the average voter? Cooperman has made a national laughing stock of himself. every time Jamie Dimon opens his mouth, he miraculously finds another foot to stick into it.
Yes to both title questions. Look at Fuckerberg, for example. He began as a typical college creep, got incredibly lucky and got ridiculously wealthy, and is now abusing his economic power to the detriment of humanity.
ReplyDeleteAnd he's only one of thousands.
the EXISTENCE of billionaires means society is geared to cannibalize the 99.99%.
ReplyDeleteAgain, as with political parties, it is not individuals that matter. What matters is that society is indifferent to their existence in the first place.
The GD history of taxing the rich is a history of trying to ameliorate the effects of capitalist cannibalization and prevent future repeats. The post-'60s history of changing tax rates is the history of the rich succeeding in making that an issue for elections. Lowering tax rates in the '80s was insane, sold to imbeciles as NOT 'voodoo economics' and became religious dogma. Today, a candidate can win over 15 million voters by promising another tax cut that they won't ever feel except in the very long-term... and that 'feel' will be in the form of pain. Of course, nobody has the intellect to discern this.
@3:32 AM, I think it's the classic problem of the super-wealthy living in their own alternative reality. People around them are either equally clueless (because they live in the same type of bubble), they're major league sycophants, or, in the case of political consultants, they get paid for finding ways to get to "Yes". If the candidate is already leaning in that direction, it's just a case of finding reasons why the answer to the "can I win?" question, might be "yes". You can always find reasons.
ReplyDeleteAdditionally, with some wealthy business people, there seems to be this submerged idea that success in one sphere is universally transferable to every other sphere. In Bloomberg's case he's gotten partial reinforcement based on the fact that he was a three-term Mayor. I think it's just good that he's considering running in the Dem primary and not as an independent.
Bloomberg is a good example of how a rich man can change the laws preventing a third run for the same office. If he were to win, would he seek to repeal the 22nd Amendment like he did the laws of New York blocking his third term as Mayor?
ReplyDeleteI don't trust a rich man as far as I can throw his assets.
8:59, your comment was a good one... and brings up a good point.
ReplyDeleteIMO, that Bloomberg may run as a democrap is proof that the democraps are barely, if at all, better than the Nazis.
Bloomberg, aside from supporting the random social justice issue, is a boilerplate Reagan republican masquerading as a democrat.
I wonder, truly, whether he would harm a Nazi candidate (trump or pence) more than he would harm a democrap (biden -- won't be Bernie or Elizabeth) should he run an independent campaign. He seems more alien to traditional Democratic party ideals than to Nazi ideals.
He probably sees a vacuum in the DNC's rigged process what with biden turning into ... biden.