Interestingly, the strategy worked in places where it didn't matter-- not in the states where Hillary needed to win electoral votes but in states that were already so blue that she didn't need the Republican suburbanites and in states so red that a few college educated woman who normally vote Republican weren't go to change anything. So, for example, Hillary won Orange County, California-- first time for a Democrat in living memory. Her campaign pitch was perfect for well-off moderate Republicans in the suburbs between Los Angeles and San Diego. She won Orange County 556,544 (51.0%) to Trump's 472,669 (43.3%). How good was that? Well, let's compared it to Obama's vote there in 2012. He lost the O.C. to Romney 541,592 (53%) to 457,077 (45%). Hillary got almost 100,000 more voters than Obama had Romney won nearly 70,000 more votes than Trump. It didn't make any difference. Hillary was going to win California with or without Orange County.
It didn't make any difference in Texas either, where Hillary beat Trump in the Republican suburbs outside of Houston, San Antonio and Austin. (I haven't had time to analyze the data from suburban Dallas-Ft. Worth but I'd be surprised if it was much different.)
Most Houston suburbanites like in Harris County, which also encompasses the whole city of Houston so this gets a little tricky and trickier still when you realize that it's really just northern Brazoria County and southern Montgomery County that are actual Houston 'burbs. But bear with me a while. We're going to compare-- like we did with Orange County-- the 5 suburban Houston counties in terms of votes not just for Hillary compared to Trump, but for Hillary compared to Obama. The idea is that Obama maxed out whatever could be gotten in the Texas cities and that in counties like Harris (Houston), Travis (Austin) and Bexar (San Antonio) hillary's over-performance was from suburban voters.
• Harris- Hillary- 706,471 (54.2%), Trump- 544,960 (41.8%)And we'll add in Travis and Bexar counties (which include Austin and its southern suburbs and San Antonio and its suburbs).
Obama- 585,451 (49%), Romney- 584,866 (49%)
• Fort Bend- Hillary- 134,475 (51.6%), Trump- 117,212 (45.0%)
Romney- 116,028 (53%), Obama- 101,043 (46%)
• Brazoria- Trump- 72,653 (60.4%), Hillary- 43,075 (35.8%)
Romney- 70,684 (66%), Obama- 34,327 (32%)
• Montgomery- Trump- 150,188 (74.0%), Hillary- 45,744 (22.5%)
Romney- 137,822 (80%), Obama- 32,852 (19%)
• Galveston- Trump- 73,566 (59.3%), Hillary- 45,503 (36.7%)
Romney- 68,594 (63%), Obama- 39,162 (36%)
• Bexar- Hillary- 319,191 (54.5%), Trump- 240,161 (41.0%)What do we see? We see Hillary gigantically out-performing Obama in the suburbs around Houston, Austin and San Antonio. Her strategy worked! But it was 100% meaningless. She beat Trump in Harris County by over 160,000 votes and she took more than 120,000 more votes there than Obama. That's huge! But except for bragging right, it doesn't get you a thing, not even a ride on the subway.
Obama- 263,871 (52%), Romney- 240,519 (47%)
• Travis- Hillary- 306,475 (66.3%), Trump- 126,750 (27.4%)
Obama- 231,540 (60%), Romney- 139,503 (36%)
Romney won Fort Bend County-- easily the purest Houston suburban county of all (kind of like their version of Orange County)-- but Hillary didn't just win Ft. Bend Co. against Trump, she had more votes there than Obama and more votes there than Romney!
And even in the reddest areas around Houston, like Montgomery County, the northern parts of which as exurbs, not suburbs, Hillary significantly outpolled Obama-- 45,744 (22.5%) to 32,852 (19%).
None of these mattered. Texas was never in danger of slipping out of Trump's grasp and the DCCC was far too lame, incompetent and turgid to take advantage of Hillary's suburban coattails to even try to win any down-ballot races. Statewide, Trump won Texas' 38 electoral votes 4,681,590 (52.6%) to 3,867,816 (43.4%). Romney beat Obama in Texas 57-41%. Trump outpolled Romney by over 100,000 raw votes but Hillary outpolled Obama close to 600,000 votes! Imagine if those 600,000 votes were scattered among Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. Hillary lost Wisconsin by 27,257 votes, Michigan by 11,612 votes and Pennsylvania by 68,236 votes-- so just 107,105 in those 3 states worth 46 electoral votes, enough so that the country would have been well-saved from President Pepe The Frog.
But let's look at what happened in Pennsylvania, where her strategy was meant to have worked, but didn't. There are 5 suburban collar counties around Philly, although most of one of them, Berks, is more exurban than suburban so it's a bit of an outlier.
• Delaware- Hillary- 169,169 (59.4%), Trump- 106,559 (37.4%)Clearly, Schumer was wrong about gaining 2 moderate Republicans for every blue collar voters who went to Trump in the western part of the state. Generally speaking, Hillary did a tiny bit better than Obama in the counties where she had to make up significant losses in other parts of the state.
Obama- 164,805 (60%), Romney- 105,270 (39%)
• Bucks- Hillary- 165,861 (48.4%), Trump- 163,873 (47.8%)
Obama- 159,598 (50%), Romney- 155,876 (49%)
• Montgomery- Hillary- 251,083 (58.7%), Trump- 160,803 (37.6%)
Obama- 227,561 (57%), Romney- 169,903 (42%)
• Chester- Hillary- 140,188 (52.6%), Trump- 115,582 (43.3%)
Romney- 123,280 (50%), Obama- 122,232 (49%)
• Berks- Trump- 93,094 (52.9%), Hillary- 75,169 (42.7%)
Romney- 80,857 (50%), Obama- 79,895 (49%)
By gearing a message towards moderate, college educated Republicans-- particularly women-- they inadequately messaged white working class men. And now we're stuck with President-elect Pepe the Frog.
UPDATE: Back To Texas
My friend, Zack Lyke, who managed the Tom Wakely campaign in TX-21, has been pouring over the precinct-by-precinct results and hopefully his work will help whichever Democrat runs against Lamar Smith in 2018. But this morning he shared some of the info he's dug up that is relevant to this comparison between and Texas and Philly area suburbs in regard to Hillary's strategy. Lets start with Precinct 3020, one of the most populous precincts of the Alamo Heights area, considered the chief voting precinct of this wealthy, white suburban-type area.
While San Antonio has an extremely high Hispanic population (55.6%), Alamo Heights comes in at just 13.55% Latino (93.80% white overall as a community). The median income of Alamo Heights is very high-- $77,257. The voter turnout is also very hight-- 72.29% this cycle. Typically speaking: white, rich, and high turnout in Texas = Republican. The precinct had 443 straight Republican ballots, and only 343 straight Democratic ballots-- yet this super-red precinct voted for Hillary-- 911 to 779 for Trump. The chance of a DCCC run by a character like Ben Ray Lujan compiling and using this type of data for 2018 is exactly ZERO. Tim Ryan is certainly a step in the wrong direction but with Pelosi picking DCCC chairs, there's virtually no chance that the Dems will ever win back the House.
UPDATE II: Atlanta Suburbs Too!
Scott Bland from Politico tweeted Tuesday morning that his magazine's precinct analysis of the GA-06 district Tom Price will abandon if he becomes Secretary of Health and Human Services was startlingly close. It's a carefully gerrymandered red district, safe-safe for Republicans, encompassing wealthy suburbs north of Atlanta (Chamblee, Dunwoody, Sandy Springs, up the Georgia 400 to Alpharetta, and Obama lost with just 37% in 2012. Nov. 8, Trump did win the district-- but just barely and by the tiniest handful of votes; Bland reports that the score was Trump 47.7%, Hillary 47.5%!
People keep saying the working people all live in "western PA," but that just shows the same kind of lack of understanding the DNC embraces so enthusiastically.
ReplyDeleteBetween the cities of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh is a huge area of farms, dead coal mines, and small towns that have suffered exactly what Trump played to for far too long. They were abandoned by the Democrats forty and maybe even 50 years ago, and they carry a grudge. Those are the counties that elected him, not the 'burbs, and it's telling that even so the focus is all on what happened in Philly.
I lived in various portions of that forgotten portion of the state for most of my life, and while there are, indeed, the kind of people the elites like to pretend make up the whole there are also thousands of other who aren't. They were ignored right along with the "deplorables," and some of them no longer have any faith the Democrats are going to do anything for them.
The Elites won't do anything but look who is.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOwOiMzO284&t=109s
I am convinced that looking outward and (over)analyzing demographics will only make bigger fools of the D elites than they already are.
ReplyDeleteThey ran a white unrepentant neoliberal neocon lying openly corrupt septuagenarian warmongering rabidly russophobic monster who once called young blacks "roving bands of superpredators" as her husband was signing a crime bill that ended up imprisoning (many for profit) a million more young black males.
their candidate could not even PRETEND credibly to be an advocate for anyone except the top .01%, corporations and the CMIC. Voters saw that plainly. The ONLY reason to vote for that monster was that $he wasn't drumpf. The motto of "I'm shit but at least I'm not drumpf" wouldn't get ANY D elected. Not this time.
They ran this monster instead of the most viable and credibly progressive Keynsian democrat since FDR. Why? Because of the billions in corruption cash that favor the Clinton (fascist) majority of the D elite. And they cheated to do it.
The Ds and their acolytes can analyze demographics all they want. But if they fail, as they seem to always do, to engage in true introspection, they'll continue to peel a few million from their rolls of voters until they are completely extinct as a political wing of the fascist money party.
That would be a welcome development and cannot happen soon enough.
To the above commenter, your blind gut level hatred of Hillary misses the BIG PICTURE. You are just like my cousin, who I am not speaking too of late. The hatred of her was way overdone by the forces against her, and guess what, it worked, you fell for it, too, and now we (and you) will all suffer because of it. She became the only one to possibly stop Trump and voting for her JUST TO STOP TRUMP WOULD HAVE BEEN WORTH IT BIG TIME. Do you see that now? Don't you read Chomsky? He disliked her, too, but he saw that saving the environment and the planet was worth a vote for Hillary, along with many other reasons. Her appointees would have been a thousand times better than what we are seeing. Jerry Falwell or De Vos for Secreting of Education? Are you kidding me? Bernie saw the light, why didn't you? Your high moral ground looks pretty low right now. Look at what we have gotten ourselves into! Thanks for nothing, Hillary hater, which was more important to you than stopping HIM.
ReplyDeleteYes the Dems need to change, do a big turn around, but they probably won't. I hope I am wrong, but Trump will destroy things so fast it will be hard to keep up.
My revulsion at $hillbillary's FUCKING RECORD (!!) is a sidelight to my point.
ReplyDeleteMy POINT is that the fucktard democraps HAD A FINE CANDIDATE who would have won easily.
But the fucktard democraps chose to run the loser pos instead BECAUSE $HE WAS LOVED BY THE MONEY... and they had to cheat to give the fucktard electorate the illusion that $he actually won the primary.
All of their polling showed the money's handmaiden would lose (to any of the top 3 R candidates at the time) but that Bernie would easily destroy any of them.
But they took the money, ran and lost.
A "party" like that needs to die AND "fade to bolivian".
So, hypothetically, we prevent herr hair and get m$. no-fly zone in Syria and war with Russia? And anyone who actually believed $hillbillary would save the planet/environ when 10-figures from the petro industry was at stake is delusional or a fool or both.
ReplyDeleteAfter the first nuke exchange with Moscow, it wouldn't make a bit of difference who the secy of edumacation is.