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by Gaius Publius
I've been seeing articles about a Biden bubble, or bulge in interest, as an alternative to Hillary Clinton for a while, and figured they were Biden-driven — the Biden-friendly people in the press helping out a chum. I also figured that the "anyone but Bernie" strain among Democratic insiders was strong; after all, why protect Clinton by having so few debates — with one of them (ready?) scheduled on the Sunday before Christmas?
But "Plan B" talk, which I'm now starting to see, is different — it's "anybody but Clinton," or at least "what do we do if she stumbles?"
Here's the New York Times on a Democratic "Plan B" (my emphasis, explained below):
Big-Name Plan B’s for Democrats Concerned About Hillary ClintonPlease read it through. If you do, I'll bet you'll struggle as I did to find real sourcing for the notion of a search for a Plan B candidate, or even solid reasons for the search.
By PATRICK HEALY
If Hillary Rodham Clinton’s new apology for her private email server fails to reassure jittery supporters, it could amplify the chatter among some Democrats who have been casting about for a potential white knight to rescue the party from a beleaguered Clinton candidacy.
Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., Secretary of State John Kerry, Senator Elizabeth Warren [!], former Vice President Al Gore: Each has been discussed among party officials in recent weeks as an alternative to Mrs. Clinton if she does not regain her once-dominant standing in the 2016 presidential field and instead remains mired in the long-running email controversy, with its attendant investigations.
On Monday, Mr. Biden, who has spoken publicly of pondering a run, looked very much like a candidate at a Pittsburgh union gathering and Labor Day parade. And some Democrats were intrigued by word that Mr. Kerry, the 2004 Democratic nominee, had met recently in Nantucket, Mass., with David M. Rubenstein, a billionaire co-founder of the Carlyle Group — and the sort of Washington wise man Mr. Kerry might consult if he were mulling another run. (Friends say he isn’t.)
It is not just Mrs. Clinton’s weakness in the polls that has generated talk of other alternatives, but also the strength of Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, who is routinely drawing huge crowds at campaign events. That has been disconcerting to Democratic officials who believe that Mr. Sanders, a socialist, is so liberal that his presence at the top of the party’s ticket in 2016 would be disastrous.
“If party leaders see a scenario next winter where Bernie Sanders has a real chance at the Democratic nomination, I think there’s no question that leaders will reach out to Vice President Biden or Secretary of State Kerry or even Gore about entering the primaries,” said Garnet F. Coleman, a Texas state lawmaker and Democratic national committeeman.
Even if none of those Democrats were to announce candidacies this fall, some party officials and strategists suggested that Mr. Biden could be laying the groundwork for an 11th-hour rescue mission during the winter primaries if Mrs. Clinton’s campaign began to implode. Similarly, Mr. Kerry’s friends say they believe he would hear out party leaders if Mr. Sanders appeared likely to capture the nomination and they implored Mr. Kerry, who would have to resign as secretary of state, to try to block him. ...
What's the Source?
About sourcing for this piece, there are several possibilities:
▪ Is this just the writer, Patrick Healy, stirring things up? Stranger things have happened in our we-pick-the-winner mainstream press.
▪ Is someone whispering in Healy's ear? From later in the piece (my emphasis):
“You have Democrats beginning to panic about the one thing that a lot of them never worried about, which was Clinton’s electability in the general election,” said Robert Shrum, a veteran strategist who was a senior adviser to Mr. Gore and Mr. Kerry during their presidential runs.So Bob Shrum, a Democratic insider, says unnamed (to us) Democrats are "beginning to panic." Is that true? If so, Shrum is the only named source for that. Or consider the Coleman quote above (again, my emphasis):
“If party leaders see a scenario next winter where Bernie Sanders has a real chance at the Democratic nomination, I think there’s no question that leaders will reach out to Vice President Biden or Secretary of State Kerry or even Gore about entering the primaries,” said Garnet F. Coleman, a Texas state lawmaker and Democratic national committeeman.Which leaders? Only Coleman knows. If the writer knows, he's not telling us. Look above for the phrase "party officials" (second paragraph), also unnamed. Or the phrase "some Democrats" in this sentence, also quoted above:
And some Democrats were intrigued by word that Mr. Kerry, the 2004 Democratic nominee, had met recently in Nantucket, Mass., with David M. Rubenstein, a billionaire co-founder of the Carlyle GroupRubenstein is not named as a source, but he could be one. If he is, we're not being told that.
▪ If someone is whispering in Healy's ear, is it really "party leaders," or "some party officials and strategists" as mentioned above, or just people close to Biden and others like Shrum floating trial balloons?
So that's the source problem. Is this really a revolt within the party, or a fear that Clinton may not be able to win in the general election? Or is this some insiders playing with the press to gain an advantage over other (more Clinton-favorable) insiders? If the former, it would matter, I think.
What's the Reason for the "Search"?
And second, what's the reason for this reported nervous search? Among those offered are:
▪ Fear of a Clinton loss in the general election:
If Hillary Rodham Clinton’s new apology for her private email server fails to reassure jittery supporters, it could amplify the chatter among some Democrats who have been casting about for a potential white knight to rescue the party from a beleaguered Clinton candidacy.Notice that "rescue the party" implies a general election loss to Republicans. And:
Each has been discussed among party officials in recent weeks as an alternative to Mrs. Clinton if she does not regain her once-dominant standing in the 2016 presidential field and instead remains mired in the long-running email controversy, with its attendant investigations.Notice also that each of the quotes above, mentioning as they do the "email scandal," could easily be evidence that the writer or the editors behind him are just stirring the anti-Clinton pot. Mentioning (and feeding) the email "controversy" is a tell in stories like these.
For the record, I'm a firm believer that independent of the merits of the email server decision, she's also being savagely attacked by both the Republican hate machine and the so-called "liberal" press. The merits of the case are getting mired in the ugly, personal, and often sexist smears. Examples here. Or look in the article itself at Shrum mentioning Clinton's "likability." That, from Shrum and the writer, gets pretty close to the one-step-removed-from-sexist smear codes mentioned in the "examples" link. (Code: Consider Lee Atwater's "You don't say the n-word, so you say 'states' rights'." Now extrapolate from the brutal sexist insults you heard about Clinton, and it's just one step to "not likable.")
▪ Fear of a Sanders win in the primary. Again:
It is not just Mrs. Clinton’s weakness in the polls that has generated talk of other alternatives, but also the strength of Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, who is routinely drawing huge crowds at campaign events. That has been disconcerting to Democratic officials who believe that Mr. Sanders, a socialist, is so liberal that his presence at the top of the party’s ticket in 2016 would be disastrous.Note that this is fear of Sanders in the primary, not the general. None of these "leaders" wants a Democratic win in the general election if Sanders is the nominee. Note also that all of the pro-Clinton and pro-Sanders material in the article is at the end, where few will read it.
Bottom Line
This could be (a) another anti-Clinton smear; (b) news of a real fear among "some" Democratic leaders; (c) a trial balloon floated, mainly, by the Biden brigade, since no one else mentioned as an alternative is expressing any interest; (d) all three.
I personally think (a) is true. Also (c). It's (b) that has me concerned. Is something going on among Democratic king-and-queen-makers? If so, it's certainly fear of Sanders, that he could take out the preferred insider candidate.
But why the concern about Clinton in the general election? Don't take the stated reason — the email issue — at face value. The same people who are ostensibly worrying about this issue, such as this writer and his "sources," are also exacerbating it. If they wanted to protect her from this issue, they'd be talking it down, not up.
That Democratic insiders — not you and me, but power-brokers — are helping make her vulnerable has me intrigued and concerned. What's going on that we don't know about? This looks like a move to move Clinton out and move Biden in, bypassing Sanders entirely, and I'm not sure it's simple "love of Joe" that's driving it.
GP
1) It is one of the main theses of writers on this blog that Democratic Poobahs would rather lose races to Republicans than have a non-neo-liberal Democrat win. That is, by my own observation, true of Congressional races. But how much more painful it would be to have all of those appointed plum jobs and insider corruption go to a Republican president than to a Democratic neo-liberal. Here, unlike key (i.e. tax and economic) policy directions, is a place where partisan identity is actually meaningful. Think of all of the sons of Larry Summers and Bob Rubin having to - ugh - work again.
ReplyDelete2) Taking Bob Shrum seriously about anything is a sure-fire sign that someone is thinking about losing a presidential race for the Democrats, because nobody has the expertise and experience in doing that that Bob Shrum has.
3) Fossilization is a key problem in Democratic leadership, e.g. Nance, Steny, Jim. Why on earth would anyone mention Al Gore (speaking of people whom the press decided should not be president), or John Kerry (arguably the worst presidential candidate in living memory)?
4) The press hates the Clintons. Hillary activates the demons living inside possessed Republicans. Iowa Democratic caucus goers don't like Hillary. This potential problem has been visible from several hundred days away. The absence of any serious thinking about it is evidence that there really isn't a Democratic Party anymore, just a collection of interest groups.
Haim Saban is Hillary's puppet master and if he senses she's weak, he'll dump her for another. Biden is a safe pair of hands. Pro-corporate. Pro-Israel. And the way to get it done is to bury Hillary from the inside. I read somewhere that it's the Howard Dean's of the Democratic party that are the real danger to democracy, not the Republicans. I completely agree. The DWS and Steve Israel's of the party are the people we need to watch.
ReplyDeleteIf ONLY ! :
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coupla things:
ReplyDeletehilbillary, is the choice of the evangelical D voters, who make up maybe a quarter of the electorate.
Evangelical Nazi-R voters will reflexively vote for whichever troglodyte that primary process hurls up, and they are about a quarter of the electorate.
What the D money seems to be uneasy about is the remainder of the electorate, which comes to half... greater than either evangelical cadre.
Besides being abhorrent to non-evangelical D voters (warmongering, moneywhoring...), hilbillary is fine, but won't ever get right-leaning hatemongered voters cuz of her plumbing.
Herr Trump seems to be appealing to the right-leaning AND to some of the left-leaning because of his good positions on trade and a couple others.
So it seems the D money has a problem. Bernie would be their solution... except Bernie is not of the money... so much. Therefore it MUST BE ANYONE BUT BERNIE.
What the D money fails to realize, as usual, is that replacing hilbillary with politically identical (except for the gimmick value) "others" won't woo any of the non-evangelical leftys either. If those voters can't vote for hilbillary due to her positions, why would they vote for a swinging dick with exactly the same positions? And right-leaners won't either, no matter who the Ds get... with the possible exception of Bernie. And GP has nicely covered this phenomenon already.
Now, all this is moot if the D money is actually thinking Warren. She is much closer to Bernie. It would be absolutely shocking... and damning for Warren, if the D money goes that way.
If the Ds want the white house and all the down-ticket goosing that would entail... they just better support Bernie (and talk him into putting Warren on as running mate too)!!!