Thursday, February 12, 2009

Catholic Church Finally Agrees: "Creationism" Isn't Science, Just A "Cultural Phenomenon"... Like Paris Hilton

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Archbishop Gianfranco Ravasi, head of the Catholic Church's Pontifical Council for Culture led the Church on a major backflip concerning Darwin and his work on Evolution. While agreeing that the Catholics may have been a little hostile to Darwin from time to time, he points out that the Church "had never formally condemned Darwin" (let alone burned him at the stake), "and he noted that in the last 50 years a number of Popes had accepted evolution as a valid scientific approach to human development." Besides, he said, it was St Thomas Aquinas and St Augustine who actually discovered evolution in the first place! (Last year, in preparation for the marking of the 150th anniversary of the publication of his On The Origin of Species, the Anglicans started discussing owning up to their own backward attitude towards him and are talking about issuing an apology.)

The Catholic Church will be hosting a conference on Darwinism next month and, although they first planned to ban the kooks pushing Creationism, they relented and now say they "consider Intelligent Design as a 'cultural phenomenon' rather than as a valid scientific theory, giving US-based IDers the chance to be smirked at by a room full of Monseigneurs, Cardinals and Bishops. Don't expect an apology from the Vatican, however. Ravasi doesn't care what the Anglicans do; the Pope is infallible. "Maybe," he said, "we need to abandon the habit of issuing apologies and treating history as if it were a court always in session... "Science can purify religion of superstition, but religion can purify science from false absolutes," Ravasi said, quoting John Paul. In fact it's been nearly two decades since Pope John Paul "publicly expressed regret" on how another infallible Pope "dealt with Italian scientist Galileo Galilei who was forced to retract his observation that the Earth and the other planets revolved around the Sun," something even many Republicans now accept.

And even many who have been sucked into the bizarre and backward Mormon cult endorse evolution. Most Republicans, however, are sticking with their firm stance against science and reality. Still, Monday's NY Times-- just in time for the Catholics' embracing of Darwin-- reported that it's time to move beyond him-- or to accept that we already have.
Using phrases like “Darwinian selection” or “Darwinian evolution” implies there must be another kind of evolution at work, a process that can be described with another adjective. For instance, “Newtonian physics” distinguishes the mechanical physics Newton explored from subatomic quantum physics. So “Darwinian evolution” raises a question: What’s the other evolution?

Into the breach: intelligent design. I am not quite saying Darwinism gave rise to creationism, though the “isms” imply equivalence. But the term “Darwinian” built a stage upon which “intelligent” could share the spotlight.

Charles Darwin didn’t invent a belief system. He had an idea, not an ideology. The idea spawned a discipline, not disciples. He spent 20-plus years amassing and assessing the evidence and implications of similar, yet differing, creatures separated in time (fossils) or in space (islands). That’s science.

That’s why Darwin must go.

Almost everything we understand about evolution came after Darwin, not from him. He knew nothing of heredity or genetics, both crucial to evolution. Evolution wasn’t even Darwin’s idea... [O]ur understanding of how life works since Darwin won’t swim in the public pool of ideas until we kill the cult of Darwinism. Only when we fully acknowledge the subsequent century and a half of value added can we really appreciate both Darwin’s genius and the fact that evolution is life’s driving force, with or without Darwin.

God only knows (obviously) what to expect from the Vatican next-- an argument with Thomas Friedman that the earth is round after all?


UPDATE: TWITTERING IDIOT JEFFREY FREDERICK WON'T BE GETTING AN INVITATION TO THE VATICAN COUNCIL

Virginia Republicans elected this imbecile to be their leader. He's got a birthday message for Charles Darwin:

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13 Comments:

At 5:16 AM, Blogger Dr. Know said...

"...planets revolved around the Sun," something even many Republicans now accept

You're funny. Or not - down south, about 30% of future GOP members didn't sleep through science class. Even worse, I live in a place where they placed red warning stickers on all science textbooks, insurance fraud is considered a profession, and criminals are elected to public office.

I call it the Scarlet D - the D stands for dumbass.

 
At 5:39 AM, Blogger Celestite said...

Most of the loudest of the single digit IQ bible thumpers already say that catholics aren't christians. This will just confirm it. (Although I don't expect them to use big words like 'confirm')

 
At 8:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Howie,

You crack me up...

I guess the knuckle draggers and Mormons won't be cominghere(Philadelphia) to the
American Philosophical Society Museum. I didn't know this till NPR this morning but it holds the largest collection of Darwins materials in North America...

 
At 10:17 AM, Blogger GOD said...

F*CK U ALL FUCKING CHURCHES, U F*CKING LIARS, ALL OF U RELIGIONS. F*CK UR BISHOPS & POPE, DAMN U. U BURN PEOPLE IN MY NAME THEN MAKE THEM SAINTS, U KILL PEOPLE IN MY NAME, U ASK FOR MONEY TO BUILT GOLDEN CHURCHES, U LIE IN MY NAME TO MANIPULATE PEOPLES. U HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ME, URE MERELY A DYING BUSINESS. YOU WILL SOON BE ERASED FROM THE SURFACE OF MY WORLD. M!A!R!K M!Y W!O!R!D!S !!! WORLD OF PEACE & TRUTH AT LAST !!!

 
At 11:11 AM, Blogger Pastor Bob-Independent Fundamentalist Baptist said...

Hallelujah, heathen! How dare you use the Lord's name in vain, glory! I pray you have not bought yourself a one way ticket ta HELL!!!! Creationism is the truth hallelujah, evolution makes no sense to me! How in tarnation can a Monkey turn into a human! That sounds like a religion to me, Monkeys don't turn into humans! Heathens!

 
At 3:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

GOD TALKING AGAIN. hey man are u serious ?!?!?!?! lol, u actualy believe that a big beared guy in the sky put a woman & a guy in a garden, and an evil snake tells the lady to eat the fruit ? yo man this is 2009, wake up ! but i don't blame you, you've just been fooled by ur superiors so that they can get money out of people. & so that u know, i'm not using the lord name in vain, IT'S ME, THE VOICE OF THE WORLD, cus maybe u don't know it but EVERYBODY IS GOD, even you, you just don't know it. Now you do. & guess what, when u accept that u GET YOUR tickect to HEAVEN (on earth, do you also believe there's a place where peoples burn ?what kinda of loving god will send u there ?? ) FOR SURE, yeah cus when you understand that YOU ARE GOD, YOU CAN CREATE ANYTHING YOU WANT ! HOW? just by thinking it, over and over again untill it comes true, and forget about fears and doubts, you'tre just creating them. MENS ARE GODS ? THE NEXT STEP IN EVOUTION !!!!! BYE BYE RELIGIONS.

 
At 11:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Gettyberg"? Isn't that the homeless camp near the Getty in Beverly Hills?

 
At 5:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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From what I heard on the samples site, they sound really good.

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At 1:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd love nothing more than for anyone one of you 'evolutionist' to show me just ONE instance where a cell gains genetic information. For those of you that went to school, in order for any living thing to form, there has to be something called DNA to form it. Each type of living thing is coded with a specific DNA structure to form that 'type' of living organism. In order for a reptile to turn into a bird, there has to be an increase in genetic information to develop wings and feathers. There has never been even 1 example of this happening. Even when a virus gains immunity from a vaccination, it is caused by a mutation causing a LOSS of information. Therefore, evolution has NEVER been demonstrated, de-evolution has.

 
At 1:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So you want to know ONE example of a cell gaining DNA! Well, some humans have more DNA than others. Consider hereditary Parkinsons Disease: "Four copies of the synuclein gene were found instead of the normal two in an Iowa family with hereditary Parkinson's disease. The two extra copies are due to an abnormal triplication of the synuclein gene on one chromosome. The result is too much synuclein. This protein buildup is believed to cause the Parkinson's disease." That's ONE! There are other examples. I didn't just go to school. Unlike you, I paid attention. Mutation during cell division can result in more, less, inconsequential, beneficial, or debilitating changes. And the best part is, theistic evolutionists believe that God is smart enough to create a system that people like you can't comprehend. Imagine that, an omniscient God. He's not the small-minded magician you want Him to be.

 
At 2:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Intelligent Design idea states that during the evolutionary process, changes occur that must be attributed to God, because man doesn't know how it happened. I wonder why when I yawn, someone else yawns, too. Since man doesn't know that why that happens, God must have made the other person yawn. ID followers are just as insane as the Creationists.

 
At 5:27 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Catholic Church finally agrees? Someone is out of touch with history here. The Church has never had a big problem with evolution. If science is a method which seeks to provide natural explanations to phenomenon, then intelligent design is not science but a philosophical view. Hate to burst anyone bubble but science has a philosophical underpinning. It is no accident that modern science developed in the Christian west. It was Christianity which provided the philosophical outlook which allowed it to develop. Thank the scholastics. That being said, just as Church architecture gave us the flying buttress, one does not have to be Christian to use science or to recognise the debt it owes to religion. To me the real tragedy is when people turn a method into a pseudo-religion (shall we call it scientism?). Recognise methods, philosophies, etc.

 
At 8:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is absolute GARBAGE. Aquinas did not discover evolution. He took Aristotle's non-deist work and renovated it to try to (foolishly) prove the existence of God. He, in turn, cause the inquisition. Let alone, many science and math books were BANNED under the Catholic church for centuries!! Furthermore, Darwin was rather correct in his evolution theory. Arthipidicus was just one example of a human ancestor found that completes one more piece of the puzzle. Get a clue. Humans were the result of a chimp split and interbreeding with other species.

 

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