Monday, December 08, 2008

How Involved Was Pakistan In The Mumbai Assault For Real?

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It seems to me that you pretty much get as close as can be to the root of all evil anywhere between Herat and Dacca when you zero in on Pakistan's very own CIA-- which has been very much in cahoots with the CIA much of the time-- the ISI. They have nurtured virtually all of the worst players in the subcontinent from their clients and Frankenstein monster the Taliban to al-Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammed, Hizbul Mujahideen, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen and al-Badr. This morning's NY Times asserts what all Indians suspected, that Pakistan's venal Inter-Services Intelligence was indeed involved with the savage assault on Mumbai. ISI is a rogue terrorist organization that isn't under the control of the Pakistani government anymore than nuclear black marketeer A.Q. Khan was. And you can take that as you'd like.
Lashkar-e-Taiba, the Pakistan-based militant group suspected of conducting the Mumbai attacks, has quietly gained strength in recent years with the help of Pakistan’s main spy service, assistance that has allowed the group to train and raise money while other militants have been under siege, American intelligence and counterterrorism officials say.

American officials say there is no hard evidence to link the spy service, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, to the Mumbai attacks. But the ISI has shared intelligence with Lashkar and provided protection for it, the officials said, and investigators are focusing on one Lashkar leader they believe is a main liaison with the spy service and a mastermind of the attacks.

...“People are having to go back and relook at all the connections,” said one American counterterrorism official, who was among several officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was still progressing.

Meanwhile Britain's Guardian has tracked down the home and family of the lobe surviving gunman, Ajmal Amir Kasab... in Pakistan. The villagers in the town tried misleading outsiders, claiming to have never heard of the terrorist. But they were all lying.
Finally one villager confirmed what was going on: "You're being given misinformation. We've all known from the first day [of the news of the terrorist attack] that it was him, Ajmal Amir Kasab. His mother started crying when she saw his picture on the television."

Attempts to meet Amir, the father, however, were not to be successful. Villagers eventually told us that he and his wife, Noor, had been mysteriously spirited away earlier in the week.
"Ajmal used to go to Lahore for work, as a labourer," continued the villager who feared being named. "He's been away for maybe four years. When he came back once a year, he would say things like, 'We are going to free Kashmir.'"

Wresting the whole of Kashmir from Indian rule is Lashkar-e-Taiba's aim. Ajmal had little education, according to locals. But it is still unclear whether he was radicalised in the village or once he had left to work elsewhere.

...But the villager who turned whistleblower said that local religious clerics were brainwashing youths in the area and that Lashkar-e-Taiba's founder, Hafiz Sayeed, had visited nearby Depalpur, where there were "hundreds" of supporters. There was a Lashkar-e-Taiba office in Depalpur, but that had been hurriedly closed in the past few days. The Lashkar-e-Taiba newspaper is distributed in Depalpur and Faridkot. Depalpur lies in the south of Punjab province, an economically backward area long known for producing jihadists.

Shown a picture of Ajmal, the villager confirmed that he was the former Faridkot resident, who had last visited the village a couple of months ago at the last festival of Eid.

Some locals have claimed that this Faridkot, and another poor village nearby called Tara Singh, are a recruitment hotbed for Lashkar-e-Taiba, the militant group accused of carrying out the Mumbai attack. On the side of a building, just outside Faridkot, is graffiti that says: "Go for jihad. Go for jihad. Markaz Dawat ul-Irshad." MDI is the parent organisation of Lashkar-e-Taiba. In Depalpur, a banner on the side of the main street asks people to devote goatskins to Jamaat ud Dawa, another MDI offshoot.

Caught red-handed, Pakistan is making a big show of cracking down. It's just a show. It always is. They're virtually a CIA client state but until the ISI is disbanded and it's leaders turned over to face justice, it's all meaningless. A friend of mine pointed out today that if the Indians and Pakistanis really go at it big time, they can knock the earth off its axis. And that, my friends, really is evil.


UPDATE: TRAINING CAMP RAIDED

The Pakistani military raided a Lashkar-e-Taiba training camp in Kashmir and arrested a dozen activists, including Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi, the operations chief who India claims was the mastermind behind the Mumbai attack. It's unlikely that they'll certain they won't allow Indian officials to question him-- and it remains to be seen what they actually do with him themselves.
"We've seen before how Pakistan will arrest some militants, keep them for a couple of months and then release them when the world's not paying attention," said B. Raman, a former head of the Pakistan desk at the Research and Analysis Wing (India's MI6).

"It must not be allowed to do that this time. They have to prosecute these people and dismantle the whole terrorist infrastructure," he told the Times.

Yes, good luck with that. Coddled Pakistani terrorist groups, who have a great deal of sympathy among a population which has been brainwashed to revere and idolize them, are already denouncing the arrests. One prominent Pakistani terrorist leader, Hafiz Mohammed Saeed, brazenly condemned the raid, knowing full well that there is no will in his country to really put a stop to the activities if these psychotic religious extremists.
"The operation against jihadi organisations in Pakistani Kashmir is unwarranted and we strongly condemn it," he said. "The Government has shown signs of weakness by targeting Kashmiri organisations... India wants to crush the independence movement of Kashmir using the Mumbai attacks as a pretext."

Arrests and the appearance of a crackdown have continued.

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5 Comments:

At 6:25 AM, Blogger Bob In Pacifica said...

ISI is independent of the Pakistan government just like the CIA is independent from the U.S. government at its checks and balances.

 
At 8:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

what a load biased bollocks....it is funny how people see the world as they see fit. No one mentions the thousands of Muslims and Christians slaughtered by right wing Hindus...nor the Indian government involvement in the bomb blasts inside Pakistan. until their is no justice in the world there will be no piece

 
At 10:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pakistan is a failed state and it will never get rid of the terrorists and Jihadist. It has to improve education and livelyhood of poor. The ISI helped these people and there is a saying what you sow you will reap. I expect terrorism to continue in Pakistan unless mind set of ruling party and military changes.

 
At 12:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to repond to the Paki scum who has posted here on the "slaughter of minorities" in India.

Finally, rest of the humanity has started to recognize the cancer called " Pakistan ". The terror strategy of Paki army / ISI against India stands on one solid single pillar- PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. This time in Mumbai they messed up in the execution and have been caught red handed. How much effort would it take or how hard would it be for paki army and ISI to plot and execute a terrorist attack like the Mumbai massacre and deny it completely? Very little, and that’s why they have gotten away so many times.



This is counter intuitive. The claim made most often by Pakis is this-----" such a terrorist attack or such a military mis- adventure (like the Kargil invasion they indulged in 1999) would be detrimental to Pakistan , so why would we do it?" They have used this tactic several times in the last 61 years and each time they have been exposed!! Mumbai is turning out to be Kargil 2008. In 1999 the pakis stealthily sent out one of its regiments, the Northern infantry made of Pashtuns, to capture mountains in Kashmir, lied through the teeth for months these were “Kashmiri freedom fighters”. Until they were humiliated internationally, were forced to admit and retreat.



To those people here who are trying to be "neutral" and trying to defend Pakis: India is a multi-ethnic, multi-religious society founded on an ideal that every one is equal under the constitution. Some of India ’s citizens belonging to EVERY GROUP have attempted to undermine its foundations over the years, and continue to do so. THIS DOES NOT NEGATE OR UNDERMINE THE IDEA OF INDIA AND WHAT WE STRIVE FOR. Christian defense minister, Sikh prime minister, Muslim President, Orthodox Jews living in Mumbai this is what we are about and this is what we cherish. To pull this, and conduct elect democratic governments amidst such poverty for 61 years is no small feat. Add in the factor of Pak being our neighbor!!



Another myth peddled by "experts" everywhere in Western media is once " Kashmir problem" is solved everything will be hunky dory. There is Kashmir “problem” and then there is Pakistan problem, the latter a much bigger threat to humanity. Kashmir is not a fight about real estate, but a survival question for Indians. It is a question about the very idea of India as a country, as a concept. 150 million muslims live in India in its villages and cities across the length and breadth of the country. There are many neighborhoods of cities and villages, with Muslim majority. Should they all become independent? 1000 pakistans across India ? This may sound like a rhetorical question but this was exactly what was visualized by some of the Paki ideologues pre-1947 and still dreamed by many in the Pak army and ISI. The founder and its ideologues expressed dissatisfaction at the “moth-eaten” Pakistan they got in 1947. And they still have gotten over it.



Will the pakis ever indulge in nation building? Do they need more lands? Will they ever focus on education, and progress? Will they ever stop being the warrior country? That’s all India wants Pakis to do. From 1947 onwards things haven't panned the way founders of Pakistan dreamed of. Both the British and Pak founders thought Pak would grow and do much better than India , and didn't expect India to survive together for too long. Large chunks of Paki population, and the "Pakistani two nation theory ideologues" in Pak military establishment still cannot digest the success of India . Mr. Ralph Peters has written a much more perspicacious article in New York Post on the Mumbai massacre pointing out envy is the key motivator.



How long and how far will the Pakis indulge in this jehad? Murderin unarmed civilians backed up with the threat of nuclear war? It is high time rest of the humanity stands up with India for its own sake.

 
At 10:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

While you do respond to the Paki scum, my friend, which you have every right to...please do look into history as well...all these islamic jihadi organisations were created, nurtured and thrown out in the open back in the 80s by the american CIA and Pakistani ISI together to counter the Russian invasion in Afghanistan...why do the americans shy away from admitting that they were also involved in creating them in the first place?

 

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