Monday, June 25, 2007



Army? Navy? Air Force? Marines? Nope-- all fortunate sons

You probably remember a few days ago when Republican billionaire presidential wanna be, Flip Flop Mitt Romney explained away the fact that none of his right-wing, pro-war sons has ever joined any of the military services. Turns out, it's kind of a family tradition. Just like Flip Flop Mitt, Matt and Togg and Twigg and Winky, Blinky, Stinky, Merrill and Lynch all used their service trying to seduce normal people into Mormonism as their excuse for not joining the U.S. military.
"Each of my five sons gave two years of their life to the service of their church, and I consider that service to be laudable. But I very highly value those who serve in the military. But it is a volunteer military and I hope that we keep it that way."

Rich white people, particularly of the Republican variety, regardless of how pro-war they are, tend to not serve in the military. And where did the Romney boys learn that? Well, according to today's Boston Globe the role model was good old dad, who avoided compulsory military service through the machinations of the Mormons. "As the Vietnam War raged in the 1960s, Mitt Romney received a deferment from the draft as a Mormon 'minister of religion' for the duration of his missionary work in France, which lasted two and a half years."
The deferments for Mormon missionaries became increasingly controversial in the late 1960s, especially in Utah, leading the Mormon Church and the government to limit the number of church missionaries who could put off their military service. That agreement called for each church ward, or church district, to designate one male every six months to be exempted from potential duty for the duration of his missionary work.

Romney's home state was Michigan, making his 4-D exemption as a missionary all but automatic because of the relatively small number of Mormon missionaries from that state.

...By serving as a missionary and being given the deferment, Romney ensured that he would not be drafted from July 1966 until February 1969. Romney's draft record from the time describes him as "minister of religion or divinity student."

And Romney learned what Mormon divinity is all about-- bamboozling poor souls out of their hard earned cash, through accounting tricks and corporate predatory practices, which is how he became a billionaire and how he is attempting to buy the White House... along with the Mormon cult, which is funneling huge amounts of money into his campaign.

Like Tom DeLay, who claims he was discriminated against by Hispanics and African Americans when they grabbed up all the spots in Vietnam, forcing him to stay home and waste his days in a hot tub and then learning the bug extermination trade, Romney claims he yearned to be in 'Nam. "I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam." He then flip flopped when his father, also a kooky Mormon Republican, claimed the U.S. government had "brain-washed" him on Vietnam. "When my dad said that he had been wrong about Vietnam and that it was a mistake and they had been brainwashed and so forth, I certainly trusted him and believed him." Yes, you did. And it looks like Winky and Blinky and Merrill and Lynch and the rest of them all believed you too: send other people's sons and daughters to die in the nightmare you and your venal political party created in Iraq.


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At 7:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


And, I had to think about the Clinton daughter. Hillary has not backed down on her votes. But, her daughter isn't serving either.

I wonder if there is a website that gives the goods on all of the Reps and Dems, Executive Branch and downward to the Congress, and, including potential challengers at these levels, as to whether or not their age-appropriate children are serving in the military, or have done so of late.

This would be a great research project for someone, if it has not already been done.

I'm sure it's just not Mormons who think that "they're too good for the military" OR "have other more important things to do", although Romney probably takes the cake on that one.


At 8:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And, I do have to wonder if Romney has "plausible deniability" on the Big Dig disaster.

As I am not in Mass., I haven't followed this in every detail since the initial events.

But, why wasn't Romney paying attention?

State Police to Probe Troopers' Alleged Big Dig Driving Range

~~Massachusetts State Police are investigating whether a group of golf-loving troopers who apparently set up a driving range inside a Big Dig facility were on the clock while practicing their golf swings.~~

~~On top of shoddy design and massive cost overruns, the Big Dig has steadily become a symbol for government waste -- plagued by allegations of favoritism and corruption.~~

At 2:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am curious as to how many Mormons are members of our volunteer army and are presently active in Iraq? Any one have any idea?

At 12:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

While I do not have current figures an article in Stars and Stripes Newspaper in 2005 said there were 14,000 LDS members then currently serving in the U.S. military. Personally My wife and myself are LDS and both retired military members with a combined 44 years service.

At 10:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the next draft, women will be included and the only defermants will be for medical students. I attended a Quaker College. Laughable, a hawk on a dove campus! While I support alternative service, I am very reluctant to support candidates who did not served in military. I have struggled with Bush II, Carter and now Obama. While signing those letters to families is difficult, you CANNOT fully understand until you yourself have served. 14 of us have served. Pain is when your father, son, husband, brother, mother, daughter, wife is deployed and you pray everyday for their safe return.

At 5:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't understand whar being Mormon has to do with serving in the military. I personally have 4 active duty military friends that are Mormon and serving. Remember, we have a volunteer military and we should be grateful for that. If you desire to serve, serve, if you do not than don't.

At 5:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is sad to say, but Romney is a hypocrite with little political skill. Can't the Republican Party come up with a decent and intelligent candidate any more? Are the GOP brass keeping good people who may be Conservatives-- but moderate ones at that--away from positions of leadership? The GOP had such great leaders in the past, but what is this circus they give us now? The Democrats are not perfect, either, but they seem to be more like the old GOP than the GOP is! For all you GOP voters out there who think Pres. Obama is inept, you will get someone who will be 10,000 times more inept than Obama could ever be in 8 terms in office! Romney is a flaky fellow from Michigan-Massachusetts-Utah-Cayman Islands-Switzerland or wherever. As someone from the South, I am ought to be a GOP voter, so I am casting my vote for the ONLY Republican candidate on the ballot: OBAMA. The GOP should have had the good sense to at least have nominated the governor of Indiana.

At 2:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

14,000 Mormons serving in the US military is about 1/3 of where the number should be based on population percentage. But when you need someone to start a war or be pro-war you can always count on the conservative LDS to leave their children at home in the basement.

At 12:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Military service has always been based on class and economic status. WWII because of its immense reach was somewhat of an exception. I remembered reading around the time of Vietnam of a gathering of powerful middle-aged men, who themselves had mainly served in WWII, but had no sons serving in Vietnam.

In 1969 my brother went to the local draft board and asked for a Republican deferment. He didn't get one.

At 7:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for this site. The Romneys are a long line of draft dodging-service avoiding cowards. This idiot talks like Rambo, keeps his money in Switzerland, and laughs at us. Doesn't drink, smoke, or serve - not my type. Thanks again, Roger, Army (Retired)

At 3:29 PM, Anonymous Lisa said...

Military service or no...
How many of you sent your kids to do full time service for 2 years?

Many LDS here in Utah are in the Guard and have been deployed. (No I'm not Mormon.) My nephew (Mormon) just came back to the states from Korea. I've personally known several who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. Some 2+ times.

You who are criticizing, did you serve? Do your kids serve? How many hours do you or your teenage kids do volunteer work? Mitt's charitable contributions were 30% before deductions. Biden gave $369.

At 11:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fact check you bigot.
1.3% of the U.S. (including service eligible territories) is LDS.
1.7% of the U.S. Military is LDS.
Over represented. You don't like Romney, take your issues up with him. When you make blanketed, ignorant and false statements you demonstrate your prejudices and intolerance.

The Mormon Battalion was the only religiously based unit in United States military history.

U.S. Army 1SG: 3 tours in Iraq, 1 in Bosnia. 3 bronze Stars, Airborne, Air Assault and Pathfinder. Oh yeah, I'm LDS.


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