Monday, December 02, 2019

Tale Of Two Columns-- One A San Francisco Liberal Who Likes Bloomberg and A New York Conservative Who Likes Bernie

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When I lived in San Francisco-- in the late '70s and '80s-- Willie Brown was one of the most powerful liberal Democrats in America. Now, at age 85... he's not exactly progressive icon. He's more like an old Republican uncle ranting and raving about the horrors of Socialism!!!!, an example of which was on display as an OpEd on the greatness of Michael Bloomberg in the San Francisco Chronicle over the weekend. And at the same time, a NY Times' in-house conservative, Ross Douthat, penned an impressive moment of honest clarity about the 2020 presidential election, running counter to the Times' editorial herd instinct, The Case For Bernie. Let's get through Brown's bullshit first and then come back to Douthat's enlightened revelations.
Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s late entry into the Democratic presidential sweepstakes is being dismissed by rival candidates, who call him just another billionaire trying to buy his way into the White House.

And given his self-funded $30 million TV ad kickoff, Bloomberg may well give fellow billionaire Tom Steyer a run for his millions when it comes to campaign spending.


But if you can get past his Mr. Moneybags image, you may be looking at the most plausible general election opponent for President Trump. Bloomberg stands a chance of winning over older Republican voters who are tired of Trump’s antics, which is more than you can say for most of the rest of the Democratic field. And a crossover Republican vote could be key to winning battleground states such as Florida, Ohio and Wisconsin.

I’ve always found the issue of self-financing entertaining. Take money from others, and you’re a sellout. Finance your own campaign, and you’re trying to buy your way into office.

So it came as little surprise when Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders immediately accused Bloomberg of trying to buy the nomination.

Apparently, Sanders thinks it’s better to have your friends buy the nomination for you, then pay them back by promoting policies that they support.

I doubt Bloomberg will be deterred by the Bernies of the world. To paraphrase John Paul Jones, Bloomberg has not yet begun to spend.

Black Lives Matter types are raising another issue: Bloomberg’s promotion of “stop and frisk” police tactics when he was mayor.

He has apologized for the practice, but the pundits keep saying the random police stops of blacks will cost Bloomberg in the African American community.

Maybe, but the pundits would do well to look at who just endorsed Bloomberg in South Carolina: Stephen Benjamin, the African American mayor of Columbia, S.C., and the former president of the U.S. Conference of Mayors.




I’ve known Bloomberg for years. He is very smart, very charming and very, very opinionated.

And he is not to be underestimated.
Sad! Poor ole Willie, former mentor/paramour for the fatally flawed Kamala Harris, with whom he's now fallen out and, apparently, doesn't see as compelling as the old Republican billionaire pretending to be a Democrat.





Recently, the Trumpists have been pushing out 3 polls showing African-American approval of the racist fake president at over a third. (In 2016 Trump's share of the black vote was 6%.) Is it too much to imagine that today millions of those voters feel taken for granted and that they've become as disillusioned with establishment Democrats as those so-called "deplorables" in the upper midwest who flipped for Trump, punishing the Democrats for their fakery. The political/media establishment-- including for reasons in Douthat’s essay-- refuse to recognize that there is only one ticket to head that off at the pass: B.E.R.N.I.E. And that brings us to The Case For...
The Democratic Party needs a nominee, but right now it has a train wreck instead. The front-runner seems too old for the job and is poised to lose the first two primary season contests. The woman who was supposed to become the front-runner on the basis of her policy chops is sliding in the polls after thoroughly botching her health care strategy. The candidate rising in her place is a 37-year-old mayor of a tiny, not-obviously-thriving city.

Meanwhile several seemingly electable alternatives have failed to catch fire; the party establishment is casting about for other options; and not one but two billionaires are spending millions to try to buy delegates for a brokered convention... which is a not-entirely-unimaginable endgame for the party as it prepares to face down Donald Trump.

The state of the Democratic field reflects the weaknesses of the individual candidates, but it also reflects the heterogenous nature of the Democratic coalition, whose electorate has many more demographic divisions than the mostly white and middle-class and aging G.O.P., and therefore occasionally resembles the 19th-century Hapsburg empire in the challenge it poses to aspiring leaders.

The theory of the Kamala Harris candidacy, whose nosedive was the subject of a withering pre-mortem from three of my colleagues over Thanksgiving, was that she was well suited to accomplish this unification through the elixir of her female/minority/professional class identities-- that she would embody the party’s diversity much as Barack Obama did before her, and subsume the party’s potential tensions under the benevolent stewardship of a multicultural managerialism.

That isn’t happening. But it’s still reasonable for Democratic voters to look for someone who can do a version of what Harris was supposed to do, and build a coalition across the party’s many axes of division.

And there’s an interesting case that the candidate best positioned to do this-- the one whose support is most diverse right now-- is the candidate whom Obama allegedly promised to intervene against if his nomination seemed likely: the resilient Socialist from Vermont, Bernie Sanders.


Like other candidates, Sanders’s support has a demographic core: Just as Elizabeth Warren depends on very liberal professionals and Joe Biden on older minorities and moderates, Bernie depends intensely on the young. But his polling also shows an interesting better-than-you-expect pattern, given stereotypes about his support. He does better-than-you-expect with minorities despite having struggled with them in 2016, with moderate voters and $100K-plus earners despite being famously left-wing, and with young women despite all the BernieBro business.

This pattern explains why, in early-state polling, Sanders shows the most strength in very different environments-- leading Warren everywhere in the latest FiveThirtyEight average, beating Biden in Iowa and challenging him in more-diverse Nevada, matching Pete Buttigieg in New Hampshire and leading him easily in South Carolina and California.

Now, I have stacked the argument slightly, and left out a crucial axis of division where Sanders does worse than you expect: He struggles badly with his fellow Social Security recipients, the over-65. This weakness and Biden’s strength with these same voters are obvious reasons to doubt the case for Bernie as the unifier, Bernie as the eventual nominee.

Especially since Sanders has thus far ignored my advice (I know, the nerve) that he reassure skeptics by telling them that he has a record as a dealmaker, that he can moderate on certain issues, so they can feel safe supporting him even if they aren’t ready for the revolution.

But still: If you are a wavering Democrat concerned about both party unity and ultimate electability, about exciting all the diverse factions of your base while also competing for the disaffected, both the relative breadth of Bernie’s primary coalition and his decent polling among non-voters and Obama-Trump voters are reasons to give him another look.

That decent polling, I suspect, reflects a sense among voters drawn to populism that Bernie is different from not only the more centrist candidates-- latecomers Michael Bloomberg and Deval Patrick especially, but Buttigieg as well-- but also from his fellow left-winger, Warren, who has fully embraced the culture-war breadth of the new progressivism while Sanders remains, fundamentally, an economic-policy monomaniac.

He’s still a social liberal, of course, and he isn’t in the culturally conservative/economic populist quadrant where so many unrepresented voters reside. But for the kind of American who is mostly with the Democrats on economics but wary of progressivism’s zest for culture war, Sanders’s socialism might be strangely reassuring-- as a signal of what he actually cares about, and what battles he might eschew for the sake of his anti-plutocratic goals. (At the very least he’s no more radical on an issue like abortion than a studied moderate like Mayor Pete.)

This is why, despite technically preferring a moderate like Biden or Amy Klobuchar, I keep coming back to the conservative’s case for Bernie-- which rests on the perhaps-wrong but still attractive supposition that he’s the liberal most likely to spend all his time trying to tax the rich and leave cultural conservatives alone.
Goal ThermometerOur friend Skip Kaltenheuser, who called Douthat's column to my attention, also suggested a quick scan of the Times' Picks and Reader Picks comments for Douthat’s essay, noting that it "is damn encouraging for the number of intelligent, aware readers, and for underscoring that Bernie’s message is getting through. Often it’s painful to read comments but these are a pleasure." And, by the way, the thermometer on the right is a way you can contribute to not just Bernie's campaign, but also to the campaigns of progressive congressional candidates who have endorsed him and are running on the same issues that have motivated his own campaign. If Bernie's-- or for that matter, Elizabeth's-- agendas are going to have a chance of passing through Congress and becoming law, items like Medicare-for-All and the Green New Deal, for example, we are going to need far fewer Republicans, Blue Dogs and New Dems in Congress and far more Democrats like Morgan Harper (OH), Mark Gamba (OR), Eva Putzova (AZ), Kim Williams (CA), Kina Collins (IL) and the other men and women you'll see when you click the thermometer.


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11 Comments:

At 6:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice to see someone else mention the upcoming 'brokered convention'. Sheepdogs will always omit the 'superdelegate' factor where the money has its fix in, though.

"If Bernie's-- or for that matter, Elizabeth's-- agendas are going to have a chance of passing through Congress and becoming law, items like Medicare-for-All and the Green New Deal, for example, we are going to need far fewer Republicans, Blue Dogs and New Dems in Congress and far more Democrats like..."

The list is two names long: Pelosi and scummer. And if scummer is still leading the minority, it's all moot. Pelosi will be the house tyrant and she will not allow MFA nor GND nor anything else in Bernie's progressive revolution. Especially taxes being raised to the point of being useful. I see a Clinton-like tweak a remote possibility. But nothing in the 75% top bracket area and never on securities trades.

 
At 6:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

@6:11

Gee, it all seems so bleak and hopeless. Why not kill yourself? Seems like a better idea than sitting around and posting gloomy comments on a blog (whose writers apparently pay you no mind) while the world goes to hell in a handcart. Just sayin'.

 
At 7:04 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's like a male dog. He has to mark every blog post with his drivel to tell everybody he was there.

 
At 7:20 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's good to see that Curley Joe decided to show up and join the other Stooges in pretending to know what they are talking about.

Who are the other Stooges? Willie Brown and Ross Douthat. Willie doesn't recognize that the Democrats lost their legitimacy long ago. This is demonstrated by his excusing the autocratic corporatist Bloomberg for "Stop and Frisk" just because he issued a late and insufficient "apology".

But then, as a man who became rich sucking up to money in trade for political services, Willie doesn't have much vision. He passed that hat to Kamala when he taught her to be nice to corrupt billionaires.

The elderly (and I am one) have little to look forward to. Our vision is directed toward the past because of this. We think that if we just try one more time we will get what we failed to get previously. Clearly, so does Willie - only his protege Harris bungled the task.

As for Douthat, he's definitely "stacking the deck". From his own words, he's clearly defined the Democratic voter as those of us who are receiving Social Security (something that both Obama and Biden continue to want to give away). As Rossie is so wont to do, he misrepresents the issue. [Bernie] "isn’t in the culturally conservative/economic populist quadrant where so many unrepresented voters reside" he proclaims.

I have felt unrepresented by the Democratic Party since Jimmy Carter allowed Bert Lance to run (and ruin) his White House. I am not a "culturally conservative/economic populist" as both Steyer and Bloomberg are. I happen to find that Robin Williams' idea of candidates being required to wear the patches of their donors on their clothes to be both suitable and desirable. While I agree with Douthat's assessment about the sorry state of the Democratic slate, I am see through his obvious attempt to arouse suburbanite voters to return to the safety of Republican rule by his back-handed praise of Bernie Sanders.

As for our 6:45 Curley Joe, We don't need to kill ourselves just on your say so. You have yet to demonstrate that you know what you are talking about since you have yet to demonstrate that you will walk your own talk. That utterance alone, however, is causing us to die laughing at you. The impudence! The crainial density! But stand-up isn't your forte, so head on back to Kos. He and the Kosacks love your sort of Dennis Miller Republican humor.

 
At 8:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The elderly (and I am one) have little to look forward to."

Gee, we would have never guessed that from your incessant bleak posts. Some of us who are older actually care about future generations.

How stupid do you have to be to think regular readers of this blog like corporate Democrats?

 
At 11:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is much about you that readers of this blog don't like 8:02, especially that you have nothing to say about the topic at hand.

Now go clean your room like your mother told you.

 
At 1:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Which readers of this blog do you speak for other than yourself, bloviating nihilist?

If you weren't such a loathsome human being, I'd feel some pity for you feeling like you have little to look forward to in life. Other than writing tedious and repetitive responses to virtually every new blog post here, of course. You always have that going for you.

 
At 4:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looking in the mirror again, 1:18? You have yet to address any topic with your attacks on those who don't toe the Democratic Party line.

Kos is asking where you are.

 
At 5:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dishonest old man, "with little to look forward to", I'll ask you again - why would you pretend to believe that people who read this blog (which hammers corporate Dems every day) support the "Democratic Party line", or participate at the Daily Kos or Democratic Underground or are fans of MSDNC or CNN? Just because they hate your guts?

 
At 6:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hating my guts is your problem. That only demonstrates what a sorry loser you are.

Your only purpose in coming here is to disrupt a growing opposition to your paymasters. It isn't going to work.

Now head back to the hive. Kos wants it cleaned before he returns tomorrow.

 
At 7:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Really, the guy who says he wouldn't vote for enemies of the DNC like Bernie or AOC, allegedly because they aren't pure enough for him, is pretending anybody who thinks he's a jackass must be a shill for the DNC or the Daily Kos?

 

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