Friday, November 08, 2019

Is The Scope Of The Ukraine Scandal Too Much For A Low IQ Trump Supporter To Grasp?

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"We Met The Enemy And They Are Us" by Nancy Ohanian

Kentucky's PVI is R+15. Louisiana's is R+11. In 2016, Trump won Kentucky 1,202,971 (62.52%) to 628,854 (32.68%). Louisiana was also a strong Trump state, but not nearly as strong as Kentucky. Trump won 1,178,638 (58.09%) to 780,154 (38.45%). Tuesday, Trump's favorite governor, Matt Bevin, was defeated after Trump pulled out all the stops to help his reelection effort, including an election-eve rally in Lexington, which resulted in a massive county-wide 2-1 landslide against Bevin and for the victorious Andy Beshear. The size of Beshear's win in Lexington-- where Democratic voter participation went through the roof and outpaced the state average-- was most of the margin by which Bevin was defeated. Wednesday night, Trump was back in Louisiana, juicing Democratic turnout for the gubernatorial runoff there.

It was almost as if he was trying to turnout Democratic voters-- for a conservative Democrat base voters aren't enthusiastic about. By making the election about himself, Democratic voters will be tempted to overlook Gov. John Bel Edwards' shortcomings and go to the polls to vote against Trump and his puppet candidate. Although over 90% of Trump's standup routine was about himself, he idiotically branded the conservative Bel Edwards a "radical liberal Democrat."

The Monroe Civic Center, the 7,600 capacity home to the Monroe Moccasins ice hockey team and Louisiana Bayou Beast indoor football team, became a comedy club as Señor Trumpanzee railed against Democrats who he accused of spending their time on a "deranged, delusional, destructive and hyperpartisan impeachment witch hunt," even as more and more incontrovertible evidence pours in that Trump is guilty of exactly the kinds of high crimes and misdemeanors the founding fathers wanted used for impeachment.

His bullshit is persuasive to his dead-end racist fan base, but to no one else. "It’s all a hoax. It’s a scam. I had a perfect phone call, a totally perfect phone call." No one else believes his twaddle about the Democrats ripping "the guts out of our country," nor that impeachment is an "illegal act." Thursday morning, the New York Times' Andrew Kramer reported from Kiev that the newly elected Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky was about to bow to Trump's demands but was spared by sheer luck. "It was early September," wrote Kramer, "and Ukraine’s new president, Volodymyr Zelensky, faced an agonizing choice: whether to capitulate to President Trump’s demands to publicly announce investigations against his political enemies or to refuse, and lose desperately needed military aid. Only Mr. Trump could unlock the aid, he had been told by two United States senators, and time was running out. If the money, nearly $400 million, were not unblocked by the end of the fiscal year on Sept. 30, it could be lost in its entirety."

Rudy by Nancy Ohanian

In a flurry of WhatsApp messages and meetings in Ukraine’s capital, Kiev, over several days, senior aides debated the point. Avoiding partisan politics in the United States had always been the first rule of Ukrainian foreign policy, but the military aid was vital to the war against Russian-backed separatist forces in eastern Ukraine, a conflict that has cost 13,000 lives since it began in 2014.

By then, however, Mr. Zelensky’s staffers were already conceding to what seemed to be the inevitable, and making plans for a public announcement about the investigations. It was a fateful decision for a fledgling president elected on an anticorruption platform that included putting an end to politically motivated investigations.

Elements of this internal Ukrainian debate have appeared in the Ukrainian news media and seeped into congressional testimony in the United States, as part of an impeachment inquiry undertaken after accusations surfaced of Mr. Trump’s demands.

But interviews in Kiev with government officials, lawmakers and others close to the Zelensky government have revealed new details of how high-level Ukrainian officials ultimately decided to acquiesce to President Trump’s request-- and, by a stroke of luck, never had to follow through.

Aides were arguing in favor of “bowing to what was demanded,” said Petro Burkovskiy, a senior fellow at the Democratic Initiatives Foundation who has close ties to the Ukrainian government. They were willing to do so, he said, despite the risk of losing bipartisan support in the United States by appearing to assist Mr. Trump’s re-election bid. “The cost was high.”

As President Trump’s principal envoy to Ukraine, Gordon Sondland, admitted Tuesday in congressional testimony, the Trump administration had withheld the military aid to pressure Mr. Zelensky to make a public statement on the two investigations: one into whether former Vice President President Joseph R. Biden Jr. had pressed for the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor who was investigating Burisma, a natural gas company where his son served on the board; the other into unproven accusations that it was Ukraine, not Russia, that meddled in the 2016 election to promote the candidacy of Hillary Clinton.

...A tug-of-war ensued between a senior aide to Mr. Zelensky, Andriy Yermak, and another of Mr. Trump’s envoys to Ukraine, Kurt Volker, over the wording of the proposed public statement. Mr. Volker went so far as to draft a statement for Mr. Zelensky that mentioned both investigations.

Mr. Yermak pushed back, suggesting language that mentioned investigations but in general terms, so as not to antagonize the Democrats. Late in the negotiations, the American diplomats consented to dropping mention of Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election.

Even as Mr. Yermak negotiated the wording in August, the stakes were clear. While rumors had been swirling for months about a possible hold on military aid, by early August high-level Ukrainian officials had confirmed the freeze.

The trade soon became explicit. They were approached in September by Mr. Sondland, a major donor to Mr. Trump’s inauguration who had been appointed ambassador to the European Union despite having no diplomatic experience. At that point, he explained in blunt terms to Mr. Zelensky and Mr. Yermak, there was little chance the aid would be forthcoming until they made the public statement on the investigations.

“I said that resumption of the U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks,” Mr. Sondland said in sworn testimony released Tuesday by the House committees leading the impeachment inquiry.

Mr. Trump wanted the Ukrainian president to speak on CNN, William B. Taylor Jr., the top American diplomat in Ukraine, testified.

But aides to Mr. Zelensky, on high alert to avoid any move that might irritate Mr. Trump, wondered if that was such a good idea, in that Mr. Trump habitually called CNN “fake news” in his Twitter posts.

They also uncovered a post from Mr. Trump attacking Fox News as “not working for us anymore!”

Nearly all Mr. Zelensky’s top advisers favored his making the public statement, said one of the officials who participated in the debate. United States military aid, they agreed, as well as diplomatic backing for impending peace talks to end the war outweighed the risks of appearing to take sides in American politics.

But there was a lone holdout-- Alexander Danyliuk, the director of the national security council. Mr. Danyliuk, who resigned in late September, told the Ukrainian news media that the Zelensky administration would now need to “correct the mistakes” in relations with the United States and “in particular their own.”

Finally bending to the White House request, Mr. Zelensky’s staff planned for him to make an announcement in an interview on Sept. 13 with Fareed Zakaria, the host of a weekly news show on CNN.

Though plans were in motion to give the White House the public statement it had sought, events in Washington saved the Ukrainian government from any final decision and eliminated the need to make the statement.

But word of the freeze in military aid had leaked out, and Congress was in an uproar. Two days before the scheduled interview, the Trump administration released the assistance and Mr. Zelensky’s office quickly canceled the interview.

Since then, Trump administration officials including the White House chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, have tried to argue that the security assistance could not have been conditioned on the public statement, because the aid was released without it.

That stance has crumbled as a succession of United States diplomats, capped by Mr. Sondland on Tuesday, have testified in the impeachment inquiry that the freeze on aid was part of a quid pro quo designed to coerce Mr. Zelensky into making the public statement.

In Kiev, there is still a debate about whether Mr. Zelensky caved or held out. “The Zelensky team was ready to make this quid quo pro,” said Mr. Burkovskiy, the analyst. “They were ready to do this.”

But Pavlo Klimkin, Ukraine’s foreign minister until a change of government on Aug. 29, said there was no telling what Mr. Zelensky would have ended up saying in the interview, as there were so many versions of a statement under negotiation.

“From the contacts that took place, it’s difficult to say if they led, or did not lead, to concrete deals,” Mr. Klimkin said in an interview. In public, Mr. Zelensky has insisted he would never order a politicized prosecution.

Either way, Mr. Klimkin said, Ukrainian officials were at the least keenly aware of the stakes-- a trade of United States assistance for political favors, even as Mr. Trump’s supporters have insisted they should not have viewed relations in this light.

“We are not idiots, or at least not all of us,” Mr. Klimkin said.
Oops... misfire! John Bolton by Nancy Ohanian


No, they're not idiots. The question, though, is what percentage of Trump's die-hard supporters in places like Monroe, Louisiana are? And especially now that it looks likely that John Bolton is almost certainly going to testify against Trump in open congressional session. Maybe the Trump base will have an easier time understanding what's at stake through illustrations and cartoons. This one seems simple enough:


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2 Comments:

At 7:42 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

trump voters yearn for a dictator who bullies the rest of the world. even if they understood all of it, they'd support it.

 
At 10:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter if Trumpists are able understand, for they are True Believers and understand only what they are told to understand by the Trump Party. Anyone who has read 1984 and Robert Altemeyer's The Authoritarians [no longer available for free download, alas!] already knows this. Ryan Grim's new work is about this. Thomas Frank's works are about this.

Resources are now relatively easy to come by to explain the average Trumpist MAGAt, so there is no good reason to NOT know that one can't reason with MAGAts. Far better to plan on getting things done IN SPITE of the MAGAt infestation. They will come around when they see people enjoying the benefits that will be produced, because they will want them as well.

 

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