Two Things I Can't See Happening: Trump Being Removed By The Senate, Trump Winning Reelection
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| Rhapsody In Blond by Nancy Ohanian |
Republican senators disgusted with Trump could simply stay away and... well, if 30 of them do, there will be 70 senators present. That means the Democrats could convict Trump with their 47 senators, although that pre-supposes that Kyrsten Sinema (AZ), Doug Jones (AL) and Joe Manchin (WV) can be persuaded to vote to convict. All three tend to vote with Trump nearly as much as Republicans do and all three voted to confirm William Barr attorney general, even though every other Democrat voted no.
It's worth mentioning in passing at this point that in 2018 52,260,651 people voted for Democratic Senate candidates and only 34,723,013 voted for Republican candidates but the undemocratic nature of the Senate still yielded a majority for the GOP.
Are there 30 Republicans who would stay away and watch Trump be convicted and removed from office? I don't think so-- not even close. And certainly not for all the reasons normal Americans want to see him removed from office. But this betrayal of the Kurds... that has flipped out a lot more Republicans and the rest of Trump's trampling of the Constitution.
Lindsey Graham is the one yipping the loudest over the Kurds but he's adamantly opposed to impeachment. Who might help? Well, if the numbers are there and a few cowards can be persuaded to be part of it, this is a best case scenario:
• Mitt Romney (UT)Would have to be extra-persuaded:
• Susan Collins (ME)- up for reelection
• Jerry Moran (KS)
• Lisa Murkowski (AK)
• Ben Sasse (NE)- up for reelection
• Lamar Alexander (TN)- retiring
• Pat Roberts (KS)- retiring
• Thom Tillis (NC)- up for reelection
• Richard Burr (NC)
• Martha McSally (AZ)- up for reelection
• Cory Gardner (CO)- up for reelection
• Johnny Issakson (GA)- retiring
• David Perdue (GA)- up for reelection
• Chuck Grassley (IA)
• Joni Ernst (IA)- up for reelection
• Dan Sullivan (AK)- up for reelection
• Roger Wicker (MS)
• Marco Rubio (FL)That's 27-- in the absolute best case scenario and the ones in the second category would never be part of it unless they could be shown that there are 30 senators guaranteed including the 3 reluctant Democrats). So... no, Trump will have to be beaten at the ballot box. Is that going to happen? Most likely. As of the latest Tracking Trump state polls, his favorability is underwater in too many states he needs-- with downward momentum everywhere. This is how it looks now (with the number in parenthesis representing how much he's fallen since taking over):
• Mike Lee (UT)
• Steve Daines (MT)- up for reelection
• Ted Cruz- (TX)
• Todd Young (IN)
• Roy Blunt (MO)
• Josh Hawley (MO)
• Pat Toomey (PA)
• James Lankford (OK)
• John Kennedy (LA)
• Vermont- minus 33 (down by 31)The trend line looks unbelievably bad in every single state. I've never seen anything like it before.
• Massachusetts- minus 31 (down by 27)
• Washington- minus 29 (down by 30)
• Hawaii- minus 29 (down by 17)
• California- minus 28 (down by 22)
• Maryland- minus 25 (down by 12)
• Oregon- minus 24 (down by 26)
• New York- minus 23 (down by 31)
• Connecticut- minus 23 (down by 28)
• New Hampshire- minus 23 (down by 23)
• Illinois- minus 22 (down by 31)
• Rhode Island- minus 19 (down by 16)
• New Jersey- minus 17 (down by 19)
• New Mexico- minus 16 (down by 32)
• Colorado- minus 15 (down by 16)
• Iowa- minus 14 (down by 22)
• Maine- minus 13 (down by 21)
• Delaware- minus 12 (down by 19)
• Nevada- minus 12 (down by 21)
• Minnesota- minus 11 (down by 14)
• Wisconsin- minus 11 (down by 17)
• Michigan- minus 10 (down by 18)
• Pennsylvania- minus 8 (down by 17)
• Virginia- minus 6 (down by 15)
• Ohio- minus 5 (down by 19)
• Arizona- minus 4 (down by 23)
• North Carolina- minus 3 (down by 21)
• Montana- minus 3 (down by 27)
• Florida- minus 2 (down by 23)
• Nebraska- minus 2 (down by 26)
• Utah- minus 2 (down by 30)
• Georgia- plus 1 (down by 17)
• Alaska- plus 1 (down by 23)
• Indiana- plus 2 (down by 20)
• North Dakota- plus 1 (down by 22)
• South Dakota- plus 1 (down by 20)
• Texas- plus 2 (down by 18)
• Arkansas- plus 4 (down by 26)
• Kansas- plus 4 (down by 20)
• Missouri- plus 5 (down by 14)
• South Carolina- plus 7 (down by 18)
• Oklahoma- plus 11 (down by 23)
• Tennessee- plus 13 (down by 20)
• Louisiana- plus 15 (down by 16)
• Kentucky- plus 15 (down by 19)
• Wyoming- plus 16 (down by 24)
• Idaho- plus 20 (down by 9)
• West Virginia- plus 20 (down by 18)
• Mississippi- plus 21 (down by 13)
• Alabama- plus 22 (down by 14)
posted by DownWithTyranny @ 1:00 PM
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Until the House actually votes to impeach, anything can happen. I'm not prepared to get my hopes up.
@Anonymous: At least they've started an impeachment inquiry which--looking at the fact that Trump is just tossing out all the evidence we'll ever need to show that he's guilty as fuck--will lead to impeachment.
And frankly, that's better than a year ago, when the GOP still controlled the House but hadn't done shit for two years (and yet I still see brainiacs claim that the Democrats could have impeached Trump from Day 1). Even if the Senate doesn't vote to convict and remove from office, the stink of Trump is still on the GOP, and they will show for history just how fucking corrupt they are as a political party.
But...hey, continue to wail on about how the Democrats suck and how they are worse than the GOP. Frankly, NONE of what is going on now with Trump should be a surprise to anyone who was paying attention in 2016, especially to what Hillary Clinton was saying about Trump. But some folks were just waaaayy too obsessed with emails and falling for Russian bullshit about Hillary and pulling a purity move by voting for Stein because they fell for the "DNC rigged it against Bernie!!" lie.
Ms. Pelosi -Dateline Jun 5, 2019 - “I don't want to see him impeached, I want to see him in prison”.
Which is what is needed for anyone to take the phrase "checks & balances" as less then a punchline to our joke of a constitution. So in this bonkers scenario where the President is removed and imprisoned does that mean his lifetime Secret Service goes to the pokey with him?
(Featured snippet from the web
On January 10, 2013, President Barack Obama signed the Former Presidents Protection Act of 2012, reinstating lifetime Secret Service protection for his predecessor George W. Bush, himself, and all subsequent presidents. Richard Nixon relinquished his Secret Service protection in 1985, the only president to do so.)
Lie? Lol. You sound ready to be duped again. Maybe read the emails this time.
Instead of removing Trump, I'd rather like to see Pelosi and all her corporatist brethren impeached from Congress.
McKenzie's been out with his brother Spuds again.
@2:11 pm
What exactly happens after this wonderful moment? Who fills all those empty seats? Your partisan stupidity is as breathtakingly consistent as the stuff you show up here every day to criticize. Of course, it's probably wrong to expect logic from the guy who's so worried about the coming extinction of the human race but whose only solution to this impending disaster is "DON'T VOTE FOR DEMOCRAPS!"
Marc, it took Pelosi 8 months to allow even this charade. Concentration camps, kidnapping kids, kids in cages and DEAD kids in cages weren't enough... but trying to smear the democrap jesus *IS*?
defend Pelosi and the democraps for that!
I seem to remember everyone being unable to see a trump victory in 2016 too.
this is America. nothing makes a bit of sense.
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