Monday, December 17, 2018

If Britain Has A Re-Vote On Brexit, Shouldn't We Have A Re-Vote On Trumpanzee?

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It looks certain that NC-09 is going to have a do-over election, although, it would seem absurd to allow Mark Harris to participate in it, since the whole reason for having it is because he was caught trying to steal it and should be in prison, not trying again. FL-15 should probably have a re-do as well... and it isn't out of the question. Republicans should take civics courses and learn about what democracy is before they run for election. The U.S. would be a whole lot better off. There are a lot of reasons to have do-overs in the Florida race and the North Carolina race. Less likely-- but just as justified-- would be a Russia-free 2016 U.S. presidential election do over. Yeah, yeah... I know. Just sayin'. BUT, another election the Russians meddled in back then looks like it is going to have a do-over... and Russian manipulation doesn't get mentioned all that much: Brexit.



Few people doubt that a Brexit revote would result is a very different outcome: STAY (or, as they call it in Britain, "remain"). It was close to begin with. Scotland, Northern Ireland and London all voted to remain in the E.U. to begin with. This is what happened in the first go-round back in 2016, with Kremlin agents working furiously with UKIP to divide the country and sow discord and dissension:



Since last summer, every poll has shown that a plurality of Brits think it was a mistake to have voted to leave the E.U. And every poll has shown that in a do-over, "remain" would win. The most recent was done by YouGov the last week of November and it shows 54% of Brits would vote to stay in the E.U, and 45% would vote to leave. The Conservative government has not been able to negotiate an agreement for leaving and British politics are a mess. Over the weekend, Michael Savage reported for The Guardian that a re-vote may well be in the offing. He wrote over the weekend that some of her senior cabinet ministers are urging Theresa May "to give her MPs free rein to vote for a second referendum, with a new group of ministers poised to back another public ballot on Brexit."
Cabinet ministers are making fresh pleas for a new approach after the prime minister’s bleakest week in office, which has left her authority seriously damaged and led some Tory MPs to fear it will become impossible for her to govern.

Senior figures in the government are convinced that with no sign of the parliamentary stalemate being resolved, Tory MPs must be allowed a free vote in a series of ballots over different options-- allowing ministers and backbenchers to support a second referendum as a way out.

Some ministers are planning to take matters into their own hands and back another public vote should the prime minister’s beleaguered Brexit deal be rejected. “Once the deal has been voted down, there will be no clear government position and we will be freer,” said one.

May will meet her cabinet on Tuesday, with ministers preparing to set out wildly different paths ahead. It will include demands for a major step-up in planning for a no-deal Brexit.

The idea of handing parliament a non-binding vote over the different Brexit options-- including a no-deal exit, a soft Brexit and a second vote-- was rejected by the prime minister in a conference call with her cabinet last week. However, several ministers still see this as the only way to break the gridlock, but believe it will only work if Tory MPs are allowed to vote with their consciences.

A free vote may also defuse tensions within the Tory party that have reached fever pitch and left some wanting hardline Brexit MPs to split off and form a new party.

Some Tories, who had privately backed changing course to a softer, Norway-style Brexit, said they no longer believed such a compromise could work and that throwing the issue back to the public may be the only way through. Tory MPs Phillip Lee, Jo Johnson, Guto Bebb and Sam Gyimah have already quit as ministers in order to endorse what campaigners call a “people’s vote” on Brexit.



With talk of a second referendum growing, May again reiterated her opposition to another vote last night and said parliament had “a democratic duty to deliver what the British people voted for”. She even described Tony Blair’s recent appearance in Brussels to support a second vote as “an insult to the office he once held and the people he once served.”

“I have never lost sight of my duty and that is to deliver on the referendum result and to do so in a way that protects British jobs, keeps us safe and protects our precious union,” she said. “However, there are too many people who want to subvert the process for their own political interests-- rather than acting in the national interest.

“For Tony Blair to go to Brussels and seek to undermine our negotiations by advocating for a second referendum is an insult to the office he once held and the people he once served. We cannot, as he would, abdicate responsibility for this decision.”

Downing Street is already expecting both Labour and hardline Tory Brexiters to engineer ways to inflict further damage on the prime minister before parliament breaks up for Christmas. Labour is said to be considering a motion of no confidence in the government, although several less explosive measures are being examined to heap further humiliation on the government.

Chris Patten, the former Tory chairman, warned that there was no outcome that would prevent Brexit from causing division for years to come. “It would be nice to think that some kind of solution-- a Norway option, another referendum, or May’s deal, or plunging out without a deal-- would actually close the debate and the lion would lie down with the lamb, but I don’t see it happening,” he said. “It will go on and on and on.”
Now, please do watch this trailer from HBO's Brexit: The Movie (starring Benedict Cumberbatch and Rory Kinnear) which details Russian interference in the British referendum. And then be sure to read the DWT post coming up at 9 (PT) this evening.





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2 Comments:

At 5:13 PM, Anonymous Tim Russo said...

nonsense. does this "DWT" have any experience in British politics? or is he gonna blow smoke out his ass about Russia did Brexit too?

 
At 10:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If we are going to redo an election, then we need to redo the primaries. Maybe some GOPer could beat Trump this time, and we'd keep a closer eye on Hillary not to cheat.

Hey! We'd be no worse off if Bernie did win, and maybe be slightly better off even if both parties would stage a Congressional gridlock rather than let Bernie prove that the two-party scam needs to die.

 

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