Now here's a fun question: "What will happen with Lieberman if Obama wins the election?"
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Is there anyone who wouldn't like to see that creepy grin
wiped off Holy Joe's reptilian puss?
wiped off Holy Joe's reptilian puss?
by Ken
My European-born friend Leo, who splits his time between Europe and the U.S., asked the above question in an e-mail. When the e-dust settled, I thought I might as well share my e-reply:
Ooh!
Actually, there are two parts to the question/answer:
(a) if Obama wins the election, and
(b) if the Democrats win a substantial Senate majority
IF (a) HAPPENS BUT NOT (b) --
depending on how close the final Senate breakdown is, the son of a bitch may actually have leverage. A lot of Senate Democrats still consider him a friend and colleague, and may STILL be reluctant to strip him of his committee chairmanship or even drum him out of the Senate Democratic caucus. However, if the Democrats need him to control the Senate, he may be hold onto his present situation.
Even if he should wind up either becoming a Republican or organizing (as an Independent) with the Republicans (right now he's technically an Independent organizing with the Democrats), if the Democratic majority is slim, he could carve out a position as some kind of power broker, with a lot of influence over a bloc of conservative Democrats and moderate Republicans.
(Note: Right now, it doesn't really look as if the new Senate is going to be close. There is even the distinct possibility that the Dems could reach the magic number of 60, which means they could defeat filibusters -- that is, assuming all 60 Dems actually vote together, which I don't really see happening.
(This raises an interesting question, which I haven't heard discussed. If the Dems DO reach the magic number 60, including Holy Joe, do they then have to keep him in order to HAVE the filibuster-proof majority? Even though on "his" issues he won't vote with them anyway.)
Now it doesn't appear likely, though until a couple of weeks ago it seemed quite possible:
IF (b) HAPPENS BUT NOT (a) --
then His Holiness doesn't need those stinking Senate Democrats. He walks into his choice of jobs in the McCranky administration. Secretary of state, anyone? Or maybe secretary of morality?
BUT IF BOTH (a) AND (b) HAPPEN --
which I suspect is your real question, then I would say the Holy One is fucked. All the more so if Majority Leader Reid is as pissed at him as he sometimes seems to be. Ever since the Dems regained control of the Senate, and Senator Reid went from minority leader to majority leader, he has been VERY cautious in speaking publicly about his old pal Joe. So we really don't know what he's really thinking. But His Holiness has helped make our Harry's tenure as majority leader VERY difficult, and every now and then we've had these brief glimmerings that he has not at all appreciated his old pal Joe's behavior, especially his bad-mouthing all the Democratic presidential candidates and announcing his support for McCranky so early.
What I'm getting at is that our Harry may be closer to the breaking point than he has let on. If this is the case, and if some of His Holiness's other onetime friends feel the same way (remember, the Senate majority leader doesn't have much independent power -- he has as much power as he has backing from his caucus), then Holy Joe could find himself a pariah among his former Democratic colleagues. And since he wont' have anything at all to offer the Republicans (his ONLY value to them these last seven years was as a Democrat who supported their president), he could serve out the rest of his current Senate term a VERY lonely man.
And if President Obama remembers the trash His Holinesss has talked about HIM during this campaign . . . well, I don't think a senator who has no friends to speak of left in the Senate will really enjoy having a sworn enemy in the White House.
THE SHORT(ER) ANSWER, THEN --
is that under certain circumstances our Joe MIGHT be able to carve out a role for himself as the "elder statesman" influencing a bloc of 10-15 "centrist" senators whose votes could become crucial on every issue the Senate considers. That's the BEST-case scenario. The other possibilities are much less cheery for him. And the WORST-case scenario could be pretty bleak.
But then, I don't think he gives a damn about anyone else. When his term expires, he can openly become a full-time corporate lobbyist, and be able to take all the cash the big companies want to throw his way openly instead of having to be so secretive about it. The lovely Hadassah, of course, is already a lobbyist, but obviously she has to observe certain limitations while her Joe is a sitting senator. I think they're both very greedy individuals, and could adjust very nicely to living openly as hired hands of the rich and powerful.
Labels: filibuster-proof Senate, Harry Reid, Lieberman, Obama
2 Comments:
"our Harry may be closer to the breaking point than he has let on"
That might be nice, but I have never seen Reid show the slightest sign of cojones. About anything, ever.
What I'd prefer is that both Reid and Pelousy lose the leadership positions that they have so disgraced.
I know exactly what will happen with Lieberman. He will make some self-congratulatory apologia involving their shared "Judeo-Christian Values," which the MSM will eat up and once again proclaim Joe Lieberman as the "conscience of the Senate."
Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, whose views are far closer to Lieberman's than to Obama's, will welcome Holy Joe back with open arms. Reid will make him Chair of any committe Holy Joe wants, most likely Biden's former spot on Foreign Relations.
Meanwhile, Secretary Of Defense Colin Powell will be Obama's go-to-guy and liaison with the Senate "center" [McCain, Lindsay Graham, Lugar, Snowe, Collins, Baucus, Webb, Nelson, Cornyn, and Alexander]. Secretary Of State David Petraeus and National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice along with those "centrists" above, will ready President Obama for war with Venezuela. The "Gulf Of Tonkin" Resolution will be predicated on another youtube in which President Hugo Chavez is heard saying "vete al carajo, gringo de mierda."
The vote in the Senate will be 100-0, following a heart-rending speech by John Kerry on why President Chavez must be "taken out" immediately to preserve our "Judeo-Christian" way of life.
Hugo Chavez along with every head-of-state in South America, the European Union, The Asia-Pacific Economic Council, plus Putin and Medvedev will in turn flush everyone of your miserable selves down the toilet without firing a shot, merely with free-market means, emptying all Central banks of all US dollars, US government debt, US corporate debt, while calling in all US trade debt.
Do not forget who was what where in the fall of 2006. Republican villain James Baker III had prepared a rock-solid, Republican-endorsed case for Bush to begin withdrawing troops immediately.
Barack Obama was in Connecticut campaigning for Joe Lieberman, a Republican-backed hawkish Independent, against the Democratic anti-war candidate, Ned Lamont. Obama, I believe, is a Democrat. That was an odd couple of things in 2006, don't you think?
ON THE OTHER HAND...
Barack Obama will tell Colin Powell "thanks for the endorsement, now get lost." He'll be exactly the bright, sophisticated, learned, progressive and CALM man he showed himself to be in the final debate against McCain. With a 61 seat caucus, he can boot Lieberman out and still have a super-majority.
He can appoint Admiral William J Fallon as Secretary Of Defense, Senator Richard Lugar as Secretary Of State, and Representative Jane Harman as National Security Advisor.
He can appoint any of Deval Patrick, Eric Holder or Alan Vinegrad as Attorney General. And any of the remaining two as head of the FBI, the third being head of the CIA.
He can appoint Robert Rubin as Fed Chair, Alan Blinder as Treasury Secretary, and James Galbraith as CEA.
He can assert himself the way he does when he feels comfortable and with his Chief-Of-Staff David Axelrod, Communications Director David Plouffe and Special Advisors Justice Abner Mikva, Illinois State Senate Speaker Emil Jones, Warren Buffett, and former Fed Chair Paul Voelcker.
He can be a man of peace and responsible economic management. He can withdraw his silly remarks about escalation of war in South Asia and cut the lippiness toward Hugo Chavez and begin forging a relationship with the #3 power country in the Americas along with Brazil the #5 power country which will allow an out-sourcing of much of the Clean Energy R & D Obama proposed in his speeches because Brazil and Venezuela are the world's leaders in that area.
A man of peace, of forward-thinking, broad-minded of world view, and the president the USA has been waiting for.
It's up to him, ultimately, but it's up to you American bloggers and thinkers to let your voices be heard above the propaganda of the MSM.
I'm a foreign blogger who went to college and grad school in the states and I like my peaceful president Martin Torrijos rather well. His likely successor, Balbin Herrera, should be just as sharp and compassionate.
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