Tuesday, January 29, 2008

BIG NIGHT FOR McCAIN-- BUT HE STILL LOST REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVES

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If Willard wasn't such a worthless and detestable slithering creature, I'd almost feel sorry for the way the whole Republican Establishment is telling him they're sorry about his $60 million but that he can't buy the GOP nomination just now. The powers behind the Republican Party think their one shot-- no matter how slim-- to hold on to the White House is through fake-independent/fake maverick John McCain.

Interestingly, though, McCain won among all ideological groups except the party's dominant one: conservatives. In Florida 28% of Republicans call themselves "moderates" and a confused 11% call themselves "liberals." McCain beat Romney 40-22% among moderate Republicans and 46-25% among liberal Republicans. But among self-described conservative Republicans (62% of the Florida GOP), Willard beat McCain 37-27%. Imagine if the conservatives actually had a candidate they truly admired and felt comfortable with!

As we reported last night, Rudy Giuliani is giving up his sort of tentative race for the worthless Republican nomination. He'll be endorsing McCain and actively campaigning for him. Apparently Giuliani's not going to show up at the California debate tomorrow.

Regardless of extremist loons like Rick Santorum, conservatives would rather have McCain win than Hillary or Obama and they will rally round even someone they dislike as much as McCain. Two disgruntled elderly right-wingers were grousing on MSNBC tonight that a McCain candidacy can be summed up as less jobs and more wars. A few of the hard core and most extremist of the GOP nuts will make a last stand against McCain, but in the end, they'll all hold their noses and cast their votes for McCain in November-- not that it will make much difference. Keep in mind, in this 50/50 state-- where the Democratic primary wasn't even official-- that Hillary got 856,944 votes, compared to McCain's 693,425 votes (in a primary that was official).


UPDATE: REPUBLICAN HISPANICS WON THE FLORIDA PRIMARY FOR McCAIN

McCain's leadership role on trying to grant undocumented immigrants amnesty has paid off for him big time, making him the undisputed frontrunner in the race for the Republican nomination. Ironically, he lost self identified conservative voters to Willard but Spanish language robo calls to Latino households from Senator Mel Martinez saved the day-- narrowly-- for McCain. (Willard only got 14% of the Hispanic vote.)
Immigration was the issue that many on the Right-- especially panderers like Romney-- thought would define the 2008 elections. And it was the issue that was supposed to help doom McCain among GOP voters. Instead, it was the issue that in the end probably killed Romney's last hope of getting the nomination. And the GOP will likely nominate one of the key authors of the supposedly hated comprehensive immigration reform legislation.

There is some justice that it was GOP Hispanics who delivered the death blow to Romney. McCain led Romney is a number of demographic groups, but it was Hispanics-- more than veterans or elderly voters-- who gave McCain a disproportionate number of their votes. McCain received 54% of Hispanic voters to the 14% of Hispanics who supported Romney. With Hispanics making up 12% of the GOP primary voters and that difference, doing the math, adds up almost exactly to the overall 5% McCain margin of victory in Florida.

Ole!

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8 Comments:

At 3:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a lifelong republican and Floridian I will not be voting for McCain ever.

In fact if the GOP nominates McCain I will leave the republican party and register as an independent and vote for Clinton/Obama winner as much as I dislike both candidates (especially Clinton), in protest.

McCain's support of amnesty for illegal immigrants and him seriously considering running as Kerry's VP should make any real republican weary of him.

It's better to suffer through four years of Clinton. Only then will we get a TRUE conservative republican in 2012 to vote for.

 
At 5:23 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is NEVER worth suffering through 4 years of ANY Clinton.

By the by, when you go to CNN.com and tally up the total number of Democrat votes cast vs. the number of Republican votes cast, the totals are as follows:

1,920,169 (R)
1,683,984 (D)

So, the notion that there were more Democratic voters than Republican voters is simply not true. (Nice try, though.)

 
At 8:29 AM, Anonymous Bil said...

Are you better off than you were 7 years ago?
Give me Bill Clinton back ANY day after the trillion$ wasted on a failed Neocon Domino Democracy theory in Iraq ANY day. I would also like the 4000 American lives back and hundreds of thousands dead, and wounded. I think the 3 million displaced Iraqi's would also like to turn the clock back 7 years as well.

Anonymousie2, comparing Republican votes to Democratic votes in the Florida primary is not representative, as I imagine you know, because the Democratic org wasn't smart enuf to halve the primary votes like the Republicans did and incent Democrats to vote.

George W Bush has crippled the Republican party for a looong time.
Your best current hope is a 71 year old good enuf man and war hero that Karl Rove slimed as crazy 8 years ago, and my 84 year old father a very loyal Republican says is TOO old. Mission Accomplished.

Really sorry to see Edwards out. Is that because he figured he was going to get zilch next Tuesday?

 
At 9:10 AM, Blogger DownWithTyranny said...

Anonymous #2, what does "nice try" refer to exactly? Did your fevered brain imagine there was a claim that more Democrats in Florida voted than Republicans? I'll leave your comment up as an example of the problems of having rational discourse with ideological fanatics who have fried their brains listening to too much Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. Nice try indeed! Try reading the posts before commenting in the future.

 
At 10:56 AM, Anonymous Maddy said...

Hey Howie
How come you took my comment about some music down. I am on your side, just didn't know how to give the tip on a musician to you any other way than in the comments, I have no axe to grind about anything, just saw an incredible musician and wanted to share it-not trying to piss you off.

 
At 11:33 AM, Blogger DownWithTyranny said...

sorry, Maddy-- I thought it was spam. Please re-post

 
At 12:24 PM, Anonymous Maddy said...

Howie,
I listened to an incredible guitarist named Philip Sayce, I don't know if you know about him, music is a major factor in my life and I like to share it. Like I said I have no agenda or axe to grind just spreading the good stuff around because lord knows there is enough negativity. His website has a music player at the bottom, he ahs played with Melissa Etheridge, UncleKracker..
http://www.philipsayce.com/
And also thank you for your hard work. The only bitch I have is that I never win any of the contests..(laughing)

 
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