Tuesday, January 14, 2020

Convicting The Bastard-- The Witnesses

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Will John Bolton Testify? by Nancy Ohanian

Nancy Ohanian sent me the drawing above unbidden. She sensed something important was happening. A few weeks ago, The Mooch predicated that if the Senate started calling witnesses who were close to Trump and could speak, under oath, to how he operates and what his motivations are, we would be forced to resign. The Mooch gets a little hyperbolic and resigning isn't exactly what I expect from Trump, but I suspect that there are at least 5-10% of his supporters who are getting wobbly on a second term and could be persuaded-- even if just to stay home.

Yesterday, writing for CBSNews.com, Ben Tracy and Kathryn Watson reported that the Trumpist regime is expecting some Republicans to break with Trump and vote for calling witnesses. "Senior White House officials," they wrote, "tell CBS News they increasingly believe that at least four Republicans, and likely more, will vote to call witnesses. In addition to Senators Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Susan Collins of Maine, Mitt Romney of Utah and possibly Cory Gardner of Colorado, the White House also views Rand Paul of Kentucky as a 'wild card' and Senator Lamar Alexander of Tennessee as an 'institutionalist' who might vote to call witnesses, as one official put it."

I expect Collins and Murkowski to do so, but Gardner is a political coward who is too scared to vote against Trump. As for Rand Paul-- all hot air and no bite. Lamar Alexander is retiring and has nothing to lose, so I suspect he could be the 4th horseman of Trump's apocalypse.
Last week, Collins said she was working with a "fairly small group" of GOP senators to allow new testimony, adding that her colleagues "should be completely open to calling witnesses." Romney has expressed an interest in hearing from former national security adviser John Bolton, who has said he would testify under subpoena. Murkowski said last week that the Senate should proceed as it did during the 1999 Clinton impeachment trial.

Gardner and Alexander have both said the Senate trial should be fair and impartial. Paul has said the president should be able to call his own witnesses, including the whistleblower whose complaint about Ukraine sparked the impeachment inquiry in the first place.


Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has said the question of whether to call new witnesses in the trial would be decided by the full Senate after the trial gets underway. A simple majority of 51 votes will be needed to approve motions to call witnesses, meaning Democrats would need to convince four out of the 53 Republicans in the Senate to vote with them to compel testimony.

The House is expected to vote this week on a resolution to name impeachment managers and transmit the two articles to the Senate, a necessary step before the trial can begin. Democrats had previously demanded McConnell agree to allow testimony from witnesses, including four administration officials, before transmitting the articles.

The White House officials, who were not authorized to speak publicly, reiterated the president's intention to claim executive privilege if necessary to block Bolton from testifying. Mr. Trump told Fox News last week that he would likely do so to "protect the office." While Bolton could testify about some events that would fall outside the scope of executive privilege, the White House would fight to prevent Bolton from discussing direct conversations with the president.

One senior official said the White House's impeachment team and counsel's office do not expect a quick dismissal of the impeachment articles in the Senate, despite the president's weekend tweet in which he said Republicans should vote to throw the articles out. Some Republican senators have introduced a proposal to change Senate rules and simply dismiss the articles.

"Many believe that by the Senate giving credence to a trial based on the no evidence, no crime, read the transcripts, 'no pressure' Impeachment Hoax, rather than an outright dismissal, it gives the partisan Democrat Witch Hunt credibility that it otherwise does not have. I agree!" the president tweeted Sunday.

White House officials said the optics of a vote to dismiss would be tough for Republicans, but White House lawyers do expect the question of acquittal to come up immediately following opening arguments and periods for written questions submitted by senators.

The president has offered various opinions about how he would like a Senate trial to proceed, while at the same time nodding and deferring to the Senate. He has also said he would like to hear from the whistleblower, along with House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff and Joe and Hunter Biden. However, motions to call them as witnesses are unlikely to succeed, even though Republicans hold the majority in the upper chamber;
Meanwhile the Trumpist regime has ordered Moscow Mitch to end the trial before any witnesses are called, what Democrats are already referring to as a "cover-up." What Trump wants is a quick round of opening arguments followed by an immediate motion to dismiss, which only takes 51 votes. CNN reported late yesterday that "moving ahead with a dismissal vote could put Republicans up for reelection in a tough spot if they are seen as moving too quickly to dismiss the case. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell could not afford to lose more than two votes-- and GOP sources say the Kentucky Republican currently does not have enough votes to simply dismiss the case. McConnell has made clear to his colleagues that he wants Trump to emerge victorious in the trial and is not willing to hold a vote that could fail, sources said. He's also keenly aware of what a vote to dismiss would look like politically, according to Republican senators, and has shepherded his conference away from the idea for several weeks.
Once the trial has begun, the Senate can vote on the merits of the articles of impeachment and choose to acquit Trump, something that can be done with only 34 votes because the Constitution requires 67 votes to convict the President and remove him from office. GOP proponents of this move argue Trump would have a stronger argument to say he was exonerated on the merits of the case, rather than simply relying on a procedural vote to dismiss the charges. Trump, though, might have to wait longer for a vote on acquittal to occur.

Sen. John Cornyn, a Texas Republican and member of McConnell's leadership team, said Monday he would prefer a vote to acquit the President on the merits, rather than seek a quick vote to dismiss the charges. "That would be my advice. Let both sides have their say and have their vote."

And Cornyn downplayed a weekend tweet from Trump calling for an "outright dismissal."

"At different times, the President has expressed different views," Cornyn said. "I wouldn't get too distracted by an intervening tweet."

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6 Comments:

At 10:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow we live in an alternative universe of distortion when you see the Dems fighting to hear from none other than John Bolton, because they believe he will make their case, to remove a Republican president. That anyone thinks that all this talk that 4 republicans will vote for witnesses is about as real as the political mushroom cloud in Codoleeza's mind. Mitch (No election year Supremes w/out a Repub pres) is baiting Nancy to jump and when it's out of Nancy's hands, will end the I'mpeachment Mitchy-Style. The Repubs will all gleefully chorus "Ha..Ha ..HAAA!" as the no backbone Dem meme floats to the top. Mitch has dossier and it is accurate: to believe otherwise is just an attempt to find an alternative universe in a minority-ruled political Hell.

 
At 10:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In America we don't have a "justice system". We have a system to render decisions. If you have money/power, you get the decision you want. If not, you get a decision that COULD be just, but is as often just horse shit.

Pelosi should have allowed articles on at least a dozen other criminal and unseemly acts and practices. That she restricted it to only these two kind of points to the democraps taking a dive. They won't pitch over face first until they think they've milked whatever advantage for 2020 they can... they'll be wrong of course.
If they really wanted electoral advantage, many more articles should be included.
If they really wanted electoral advantage, they should be holding many trump acolytes in civil contempt and in jail. Naturally, they would never do this.

Nadler was freed from Pelosi's umbrella on such things but chose to still display his fealty to the worst house speaker ever... Schiff was not encumbered either but chooses the same fealty.

The democraps are taking a dive again. If you cannot see it, you deserve that shit party for the remainder of your days.

THAT so many are so stupid they cannot see it is why we're in this predicament in the first place. Trump didn't win. He failed to lose to a democrap. There is a difference.

Be proud y'all.

 
At 11:20 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see Democrats are again getting their hopes up. When are they going to learn that the Republicans aren't going to give them a fraction of what they ask for? Democrats treat politics as Mother May I while Republicans treat it like war.

 
At 12:07 PM, Anonymous Hone said...

Yes I agree with the above 10:18. Nancy should have had 6-10 articles of impeachment to show the American people what a total criminal Donald is and document his crimes in clear print. Her disdain for the American public, thinking we are nitwits who would be overwhelmed with a list of more than two items, is pathetic and untrue. While Trump supporters are deplorables and many are dumb and ignorant, more than half of this country has functioning brains. And most of them are Dems or Independents who can read and process information. No Emoluments article? Really? No collusion with Russia? Surely both extremely worthy of impeachment.

No matter what, it is quite unlikely this trial will go well for the Dems, the Constitution or democracy. I would not count on any Republican to do the right thing. Rand Paul never votes with what he has said; Collins is a total ass who equivocates and does not come through. Romney - what the hell is wrong with him? Doubtful he will be courageous. I suspect there will be no witnesses, sorry to say. What's a trial without witnesses or documents? No trial at all. A complete sham.

Only positive 2020 election results will save us, and unfortunately that is questionable as a possibility, given the state of politics and the Russians.

Fingers crossed. Serenity Now. Never Give Up! Certainly Great Britain faced a greater catastrophe and they pulled through. Bernie is our new FDR. Go Bernie!

 
At 6:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saith Hone: "Only positive 2020 election results will save us... Fingers crossed. Serenity Now. Never Give Up!..."

Seriously Hone, I need to know what your Rx is. You've agreed with another respondent that there is no hope. And then you can type that snippet. The whiplash alone between the first and the last must've given you a concussion.

Now, I've known that only smarter voters can save the usa... and we just plain don't have smarter voters... we have dumber ones every cycle. Nothing else is possible.

What will your take be when, not if, Moscow's bitch dismisses articles almost as soon as Pelosi sends them over? Will you find optimism in that infinite negative still?

I need some of that chemical you take. Please, Please...

 
At 1:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hopefully you live in a state which has legalized recreational weed, 6:40. It will suffice.

 

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