Wednesday, January 09, 2019

Some People Know How To Respond To Trump's Barrage Of Lies Better Than Others Do


I thought both Pelosi and Schumer made decent responses to Trump's failed, low-energy Oval Office speech, you remember, the one last night where he  unsuccessfully made a half-assed attempt to rally Americans to his vanity wall. Bernie's response-- the video above-- was clearer and better. He also used the word "lie," something Chuck and Nancy were too delicate to do. And speaking of "too delicate," PolitiFact's analysis of Trump's lie-strewn speech was nothing short of PATHETIC, describing out-right attempts to manipulate his views with bogus claims as "partially accurate," "uncertain," "dubious," and-- at worst-- "misleading." Why are they so scared to call him a congenital obsessive liar? They had no such compunctions about one of the freaks behind his wall resolve: "Trump said in 2017 that building a wall between the United States and Mexico would curb opioid use in America, but experts told PolitiFact that they were skeptical a wall would have a drastic impact. (Conservative pundit Ann Coulter said in 2018 that "100% of heroin/fentanyl epidemic is because we don't have a WALL." We rated that Pants on Fire)."

More people watched Chuck and Nancy than Trumpanzee

The Associated Press did a slightly more credible fact-checking job, although was still too much into imagining their job of fact checkers is to "represent" both sides. Still, like Bernie, they pointed the lies right out: "In his prime-time speech to the nation, President Donald Trump declared a border crisis that’s in sharp dispute, wrongly accused Democrats of refusing to pay for border security and ignored the reality of how drugs come into the country as he pitched his wall as a solution to varied ills."

A lot of people wanted Ted Lieu to give the Democratic response. Like Bernie, he's very clear-spoken. This morning he told me that "Trump's fear mongering speech was so misleading that even Fox News fact checked him. There is no border crisis. Here are the facts: Violent crime is down; property crime is down; immigrants, both documented and undocumented, commit less crimes than native born Americans; border crossings are at a 20 to 45 year low; and border apprehensions dropped by 75% since 2000."

Back to Bernie... his first point, that "we don’t need to create artificial crises, we have enough real crises," led to an explanation of a crisis that Trump doesn't even have the mental capacity to understand is a crisis: "The scientific community has made it very clear in telling us that climate change is real and is causing devastating harm to our country and the entire planet. They have told us in no uncertain terms that if we do not transform our energy system away from fossil fuel, our nation and our planet and the planet we will be leaving our kids and grandchildren may well become unhealthy and even uninhabitable in the not-so-distant future."

Reporting this morning for ABC News, Matthew Dowd wrote that Trump "doesn't seem to understand that the majority of the country is opposed to him on this issue, as all public polling shows that Americans are against a border wall, blame the president for the shutdown and are supportive of the Democrats position of reopening the government. Until the president understands that, or enough Republicans in Congress finally get the religion of reality, this shutdown will go on." He portrayed Trump's address as "the Hollywood equivalent... of releasing a movie for the 12th time after it bombed at the box office a little over two months ago."
The president's speech from the Oval Office provided no new information for this debate we are in over the government shutdown and border security, did not expand the audience who would be receptive to the president's message and will not move a single swing voter in America or in Congress to the president's position.

Other than all that, it went well.

One of the fascinating things about the president rerunning this same message but merely switching the venue to the Oval Office, is that the box office receipts already came in on this project on Nov. 8, 2018, and the message pushed by the president failed miserably at the polls. In fact, the president and his immigration message lost by a historic margin in a midterm election.

So why would you roll out the same message which failed just a few months ago and think it would be successful? My guess, just like some in Hollywood, is that when you lack creativity and you have something that got an applause line years ago, you try it again.

...[I]t might be a good idea for the president to invest in a new script, new creative people, and refrain from relaunching a rejected movie. For a man who seems to crave ratings wins, the president might not want to stick with this immigration box office failure much longer.

Pramila Jayapal (D-WA), one of the strongest voices on the immigration issues that Trump can't seem to be able to cope with, noted that Trump "sounds like a broken record. He reverts to the same old script-- demagoguery and xenophobia-- because that’s all he knows how to do. The fact is that even the Department of Homeland Security says our Southern border, where the Trump administration wants to build a wall, is more difficult to cross without authorization today than ever before. Apprehensions are at the lowest rate ever.  And as much as he wants to paint a different picture, immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than native born Americans. Furthermore, we know that the majority of drugs come in at legal points of entry-- not where there is no wall.  This has never been about security. It is simply political... It is time for the president to give up on his vanity wall fantasy and allow us to focus on what matters: ending this shutdown. The American people are sick and tired of his border wall obsession. What they want is a stable economy, good healthcare, an end to a government shutdown that grows more harmful every day, and common sense reforms to our immigration system. This speech belongs in the dustbin-- it is time to move on and get things done for our country."

We're eager to see Mike Siegel in Congress after the 2020 elections-- the same way we were eager to see Pramila, Alexandria Ocasio, Rashida Tlaib and Ted Lieu make it to Congress in previous cycles. There hasn't been a Texan like him in Congress in a very long time-- too long a time. This morning he told me that "Any Texan within a day’s drive of the border can see through Trump’s phony 'crisis.' The real emergency is the Republican-imposed shutdown which is depriving Americans of essential pay and services. Enablers like Michael McCaul here in TX-10 are praying voters have short memories. I’m counting on Congressional Democrats to stay strong against the useless, immoral Wall-- and Trump’s hostage-taking tactics."


As you know, Trump is a ratings-queen so he'll be happy to know that people watched his tired, lifeless speech. He may be less happy that Chuck and Nancy had more viewers though. The Hollywood Reporter: "The quarter hour (9-9:15 p.m. ET) containing the president’s speech drew a combined 28.1 household rating in metered markets on ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, CNN, Fox News and NBC. The following 15 minutes, including analysis and the Pelosi-Schumer rebuttal, averaged 29.3 across those same networks, a bump of about 4 percent."

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At 11:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This has never been about security. It is simply political."

Actually, it's all about hate and pandering to his base. so... strictly speaking, 'political' is correct. But it would be much more accurate to get down to the base urge behind it.

This is no different than the nazis' early pandering to their hater base.

now, can we just all call his party what it is? It's the American Nazis. period.

At 12:39 PM, Anonymous Hone said...

Trump conned the tv networks big time. He got the free national air time, and he used it to solicit campaign contributions from his supporters before and after the event. The network heads should be expressing RAGE that he had the gall to solicit money surrounding the oval office speech. They were so STUPID. They denied Obama the air time about immigration, after all. Giving in to Trump gets no one anywhere. He will still trash the tv networks other than Fox. Say NO next time!!

As far as Trump being moved by anything, i.e., public opinion, forget it. He will continue doing what he is doing until he is stopped, and the Republicans won't lift a finger to do so. Graham said if the Republicans cave it will be the end of Trump's presidency and the end of their party, so no way in hell will the Senate cave. Let's rely on the likes of Susan Collins? Are you kidding? She is full of shit. She voted for Kavanaugh, after all, and the women in Maine will never forget it. Collins, Rand Paul, etc., talk a good game on occasion but they vote in lock step all the same. Collins will be voted out in 2020. Hey, maybe she will retire anyway. How old is she anyway?

At 12:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop blaming the TV networks, Hone. They do what their owners want them to do, which is NOT to inform We the People. They gave Trump over $5 billion worth of TV time during the campaign and called it news. This is no different even if he did ask for money.

The corporate media do not deserve your trust nor support. They are the propaganda wing of your enemies.

At 12:53 PM, Anonymous Hone said...

I agree Anonymous, but the networks do deserve some blame. What makes you think I trust them?

At 4:51 PM, Anonymous ap215 said...

At 10:39 PM, Anonymous zeeman said...

C'Mon all of you act like this is 'The Day the Earth stood still'. Viewing O.T.A. networks or cable jockeys is an outdated form of communication. Still applicable to the MAGA morons (hats made in commie China), who hang on to the '50's -'60's when rich were taxed up to 90% and prosperity of this country was second to some. In our late '60's, wife and I are now 'tuned' into the cyber world, eg. Podcasts, Youtube subscriptions and blogs such as this one. Don't even tune into PBS News Hour anymore. Was the last TV 'newscast' we viewed. As for terrestrial radio, (AM/FM) are they still on the air?

At 12:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

lauding some people's responses is, as usual misleading.

if those are democrap people, their responses are lies (MFA, GND...).

responding to lies you do not believe with other lies that you do believe in... how uniquely American.


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