Saturday, February 11, 2017

Trump, Flynn, Putin, The Golden Showers-- Why Members of Congress Are Demanding Trump Fire Flynn

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Friday, two progressive Democrats who served in the military and are especially concerned about National Security issues, Ted Lieu (D-CA) and Ruben Gallego (D-AZ), demanded Trump fire his scandal-plagued National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn. They pointed out in a joint statement that "Flynn sought to undermine the foreign policy of a sitting American President.  And then he lied-- repeatedly and egregiously-- about his actions. Donald Trump should fire Michael Flynn immediately. Flynn communicated with high-ranking Russian officials both before and after a presidential election that, according to our intelligence community, Russia actively worked to influence on behalf of Donald Trump.  When President Obama imposed sanctions on Russia in response to its unprecedented efforts to disrupt our democracy, Flynn made a series of phone calls to the Russian Ambassador, Sergey Kislyak, offering assurances that the incoming administration would lift these measures after Trump was sworn-in. General Flynn then compounded this outrageous misconduct by lying on multiple occasions about the nature of his conversations with Kislyak, claiming that sanctions had never been discussed. Not only did Flynn mislead Congress and the American people, he also apparently deceived Vice President Mike Pence, who made false statements on Flynn’s behalf in an interview with Face the Nation."

The two congressmen concluded by pointing out that "at a minimum, Flynn recklessly violated the sacred principle that America only has one president at a time. But a compelling case can also be made that Flynn violated federal law by collaborating with foreign officials while still a private citizen. The American people deserve competence-- not corruption-- from the leaders entrusted with our national security. They deserve to be told the truth by the men and women who advise the President. And they deserve a full accounting of how and when President Trump’s advisors colluded with a foreign power that sought to alter the outcome of an American election. For all of these reasons, President Trump should fire General Flynn."

OK, fair enough-- and Lieu and Gallego didn't even get into the sordid details which should all come out in investigations and, hopefully a trial. According to a report in the NY Times Thursday, "current and former American officials said that conversation [between Flynn and Putin's man Kislyak]-- which took place the day before the Obama administration imposed sanctions on Russia over accusations that it used cyberattacks to help sway the election in Mr. Trump’s favor-- ranged far beyond the logistics of a post-inauguration phone call. And they said it was only one in a series of contacts between the two men that began before the election..." Flynn is feigning memory loss in regard to what is clearly treason.

Pence's lie on Face The Nation was when he said Flynn and Kislyak "did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia." But that's exactly what intelligence agency tapes of the conversation-- how dumb is Flynn not to comprehend that all Kislyak conversations are routinely monitored?-- show was talked about. At the very least, Flynn was violating the Logan Act-- and Pence was covering up for him.
Federal officials who have read the transcript of the call were surprised by Mr. Flynn’s comments, since he would have known that American eavesdroppers closely monitor such calls. They were even more surprised that Mr. Trump’s team publicly denied that the topics of conversation included sanctions.

The call is the latest example of how Mr. Trump’s advisers have come under scrutiny from American counterintelligence officials. The F.B.I. is also investigating Mr. Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort; Carter Page, a businessman and former foreign policy adviser to the campaign; and Roger Stone, a longtime Republican operative.

Prosecutions in these types of cases are rare, and the law is murky, particularly around people involved in presidential transitions. The officials who had read the transcripts acknowledged that while the conversation warranted investigation, it was unlikely, by itself, to lead to charges against a sitting national security adviser.

But, at the very least, openly engaging in policy discussions with a foreign government during a presidential transition is a remarkable breach of protocol. The norm has been for the president-elect’s team to respect the sitting president, and to limit discussions with foreign governments to pleasantries. Any policy discussions, even with allies, would ordinarily be kept as vague as possible.

“It’s largely shunned, period. But one cannot rule it out with an ally like the U.K.,” said Derek Chollet, who was part of the Obama transition in 2008 and then served in senior roles at the State Department, White House and Pentagon.

“But it’s way out of bounds when the said country is an adversary, and one that has been judged to have meddled in the election,” he added. “It’s just hard to imagine anyone having a substantive discussion with an adversary, particularly if it’s about trying to be reassuring.”
Senators Chris Murphy (D-CT) and Ed Markey (D-MA) put out a similar statement to the one Lieu and Gallego put out: "There is no good way to explain today’s report that Michael Flynn was coordinating sanctions relief for Russia before his boss was inaugurated. Either Donald Trump directed his National Security Adviser to undermine U.S. foreign policy on Russia, or Michael Flynn went rogue and did it on his own. Then he either lied to the Vice President or the Vice President went on television to lie to the American people. Whatever transpired, the President needs to get his White House under control."



As if that weren't bad enough, late yesterday, Jake Tapper reported on CNN, although CNN was careful to point out that there is still no definitive proof that Trump was hiring Russian prostitutes to piss on him, the part of the story that gave the dossier the nickname, the "Golden Showers Dossier." Essentially what CNN is reporting is that intelligence agency intercepts "confirm that some of the conversations described in the dossier took place between the same individuals on the same days and from the same locations as detailed in the dossier." But there are still no publicly available tapes of the hookers pissing on Trump, who claims he's germaphobic and therefore would never allow a Russian hooker or multiple Russian hookers-- virtually all of whom are HIV positive-- to pee on him. CNN reported that "The corroboration, based on intercepted communications, has given US intelligence and law enforcement 'greater confidence' in the credibility of some aspects of the dossier as they continue to actively investigate its contents, these sources say," but everyone is staying mum on how many hookers pissed on Trump and if they pissed on him one at a time or they all pissed on him together at the same time. There are also some people who like being pissed on in the mouth and Trump might-- or, to be fair-- might not be one of those.

Sean Spicer is now writing lines for Melissa McCarthy to use on SNL. When CNN reached out to the regime for comments on the corroborated parts of the dossier he snarled "We continue to be disgusted by CNN's fake news reporting." Spicer later said CNN is reporting this as part of a conspiracy to get peoples' attention off some meeting Trump had with Japan's notoriously fascist prime minister Friday.

No one at the FBI, Department of Justice, CIA or Office of the Director of National Intelligence would comment on CNN's report or on if Americans will ever get to see the tapes of Trump being urinated on by Russian prostitutes in a notoriously bugged suite in the Ritz Carlton in Moscow two blocks from the Kremlin, where even novice travelers know that only officially-sanctioned FSB (formerly the KGB) prostitutes are allowed to ply their trade.

Currently Putin is busy arresting and in at least one case, murdering, everyone who was involved in the sordid episode. CNN reported that they were told by US intelligence officials that "some of the individuals involved in the intercepted communications were known to the US intelligence community as 'heavily involved' in collecting information damaging to Hillary Clinton and helpful to Donald Trump." They claim they don't know if Putin has the tapes of the hookers pissing on Trump and no one knows if the tapes are clear enough to make out definitively and whether or not you can hear what Trump is saying while the prostitutes are urinating on him. FBI and CIA agents refer to Trump's golden showers episode as "the more salacious things" in the dossier. There are rumors that Larry Flynt of Hustler-- not to be confused with Michael Flynn, a hustler-- is trying to buy the tapes from Putin.



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6 Comments:

At 2:28 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If all the accusations, supplied by the always transparent, forthright and accurate intelligence community, against Herr Hair regarding his relationship with Russia, were actually true, then surely Flynn would be canned.

However it would not be for the reasons stated but, rather, because Flynn insulted the Russians by treating them as too stupid to figure out for themselves that their, alleged, benefactor in the White House, Herr Hair, would obviously rescind the umpteenth round of sanctions that Obumma had levied on Russia.

The new Sec State is hardly going to seal the lucrative deals he's obviously seeking for Exxon to obtain Russian oil & gas if idiots like Flynn continue to alienate the Russkis!

Nixon's representatives "negotiated" with S. Viet Nam (in the midst of our war v. N. Viet Nam) before he was elected and Reagan's "negotiated" to have US hostages retained in Iran until his inauguration day.

Nothing was done to either of these two who actually WERE dealing with entities that could reasonably be considered enemies of the US (the critical condition of the too-frequently invoked crime of treason) having actually DONE something to the US, rather than simply being yet another object of our apparent bottomless paranoia.

So clearly, "(p)rosecutions in these types of cases are rare, and the law is murky, particularly around people involved in presidential transitions," since it would require the incoming administration, in this case, Jeff Sessions, much less the GOP-controlled congress, to investigate and prosecute one of its own high ranking officials.

John Puma

 
At 4:57 AM, Anonymous Hone said...

Yes, nothing ever happened to Nixon, or Kissinger for that matter, for their clearcut treason surrounding their Vietnam shenanigans, exposed later on. Hillary chose to ignore it and kept Kissinger on the pedestal, one of many reasons she was widely disliked and distrusted by those who read the factually based "real news". Although of course, horrible as it was, this weighs in as a grain of sand compared to the elephantine weight of what has been going on with Trump at the helm.

Trump will not fire Flynn and with this Congress, nothing will happen. Trump flips the bird at anyone questioning him and he only says, "You're fired!," to those who are critical of him. Flynn is just what Trump wants, a despicable, immoral, lying, delusional, incompetent sycophant willing to cheat, commit treason and undermine the USA on Russia's behalf at Herr Trump's behest. Is anyone that surprised? Let's face it, every last one of Trump's appointees is a horror show, set out to destroy whatever they are in charge of. EPA - out of the window; animal abuse - why not?, education - who needs it; protecting consumers - screw them; federal land - let's sell it and make a quick buck; health care - only for the wealthy and all members of Congress; separation of church and state - heading down the drain, etc., etc.

It issuing to be a long, long slog into the gilded swamp, sucking noises not withstanding.

 
At 5:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good comments above. Very good.

However, it's probable that Flynn was hired (during the campaign) precisely because he is a drumpf acolyte, he has contacts in Russia, he has zero ethics so treason isn't any big deal, and he was then given his current position in thanks for and anticipation of further services rendered.

Given Nixon's and Reagan/bush's precedents, which were known at the time of the transgressions and buried BY DEMOCRAT ADMINS, this guy's treason will never be prosecuted. It will be rewarded.

So goes the principles and principals in the us gummint and the democrap "party". Anything that increases the power of the exec shall be retained in the off chance that a democrap ever wins again.

obamanation's odious admin was proof.

Eventually we'll get to the "absolute power" thing that corrupts "absolutely" and a despot will emerge. human nature.

 
At 7:09 AM, Anonymous Hone said...

I think the expose revealed that the peeing was directed at the bed that the Obamas had slept on for Trump's observance and delight rather than actually on him. Gee, is that actually a better scenario? The former suggests astounding political depravity whereas the latter points towards individual psychopathology. Though the former is also reflective of the latter!

 
At 10:13 PM, Blogger Bill Michtom said...

Short version of above comments: IOKIYAR.

 
At 6:55 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the case of Reagan and Nixon treason, it was also IOKIYAD since neither LBJ nor Carter did dick about it, setting precedents for later use... like now.

"golden shower" doesn't mean wetting the bed. I'm pretty sure I read that he paid Russian hookers to pee on each other. Or whatever. If we got another FDR that liked his golden showers, I'd be fine with that.

 

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